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APOD: Bright Star Regulus near the Leo I... (2012 Jan 10)

Post by APOD Robot » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:06 am

Image Bright Star Regulus near the Leo I Dwarf Galaxy

Explanation: The star near the top is so bright that it is sometimes hard to notice the galaxy toward the bottom. Pictured above, both the star, Regulus, and the galaxy, Leo I, can be found within one degree of each other toward the constellation of the Lion (Leo). Regulus is part of a multiple star system, with a close companion double star visible to the lower left of the young main sequence star. Leo I is a dwarf spheroidal galaxy in the Local Group of galaxies dominated by our Milky Way Galaxy and M31. Leo I is thought to be the most distant of the several known small satellite galaxies orbiting our Milky Way Galaxy. Regulus is located about 75 light years away, in contrast to Leo 1 which is located about 800,000 light years away.

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Post by islader2 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:48 am

Excellent guess, Ann {without an 'e'}! Always love your posts. :D :D :D













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Post by Beyond » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:49 am

RJN, The Main Sequence Blues is really neat! I didn't know you write fun stuff like that. :clap: :clap:
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Post by Ann » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:18 am

islader2 wrote:Excellent guess, Ann {without an 'e'}! Always love your posts. :D :D :D
Thanks, islader2!! :D :D :D

I have extremely little time right now, but I must say that this is a very nice APOD with some excellent links. Don't miss the "multiple star system" link, which shows you the truly fascinating makeup of the Regulus system. Also don't miss the third "Regulus" link, where you can see the extremely flattened Regulus rotate! Don't believe in the yellow-white color that has been chosen for Regulus in this youtube video, however.

There are many other fascinating things to be learned from the links. For example, Regulus appears to have a very small close-in companion that may be an underweight white dwarf. Regulus may originally have been the lower mass companion of a larger and hotter main sequence star, which, when it turned into a red giant, started transferring much of its mass to its lower mass companion. The lower mass companion, present-day Regulus, "put on weight", became hotter, bluer and more luminous. It also had its rotation sped up (hence the rotation-flattened shape of Regulus). But the shrinking red dwarf turned into an emaciated white dwarf! The same thing may be happening to Beta Persei, Algol!

Note that Regulus is the most nearby of all B-type stars, whereas Leo 1 may be the most distant of the Milky Way's dwarf spheroidal companions. I find it interesting that it orbits the Milky Way from a distance of about 800,000 light-years. Bear in mind that the Andromeda Galaxy is about 2.5 million light-years away. I don't know if Leo 1 orbits the MIlky Way in such a way that it gets significantly closer to M31 during any part of its orbit, but if it does, then the wide but possibly undisturbed orbit of Leo 1 suggests to me that the total mass of the Milky Way can't be a lot less than the total mass of the Andromeda Galaxy.

I have a few more things I'd like to say, but unfortunately I have no time now.

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Post by Byork » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:05 am

Today I learned about the star Regulus and the Leo dwarf cluster. I was also impressed with the diagram for Algol. I wonder if APOD could supply image and data for the star Mizar including where to look for it in the sky (I want to test my eye sight).
I also took a peek at Chris Cook's other pictures such as landscape portraits of Cape Cod and Martha's Vineyard and Nuntucket; excellent landscape pictures.
What interests me most with today's APOD is the Leo I dwarf - is this object a galaxy or a star cluster ? And, would it possible to resolve individual stars of this object. How would individual stars of this object fare with regard to existence of habitable planets ?
There is very good reason to believe that Leo I dwarf is brighter than it actually appears; the cluster seems to be enshrouded in a globule of gas. The Leo I dwarf may be comparable to the Pleiades cluster in many ways.

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Post by luigi » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:49 pm

I loved today's APOD, it's a really beautiful image. The informative part is a great addition but the image itself it's wonderful.
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Post by orin stepanek » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:56 pm

Today's APOD is very interesting the way bright Regulus pretty much dominates Leo I. Of course Leo I is pretty far away being the most distant satellite galaxy to the Milky Way! I wonder how bright it would appear if Regulus wasn't overwhelming it. Kind of like our city lights overwhelm the stars at night! :(
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Post by eltodesukane » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:04 pm

the link and zoom make me dizzy!
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Re: APOD: Bright Star Regulus near the Leo I... (2012 Jan 10

Post by Ann » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:54 pm

Byork wrote:
I wonder if APOD could supply image and data for the star Mizar including where to look for it in the sky (I want to test my eye sight).
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Byork, do you live relatively far north of the equator? Because if you do, that means that you can probably see Mizar every clear night. You need to look north, where you will find the Big Dipper.

Take a look at the drawing of the Big Dipper that I have posted here. You can't be sure of the orientation of the Big Dipper - it may be positioned like it is in this picture, or it may be sideways or even upside down. But the general shape of the Big Dipper is easy to recognize.

When you have found the Big Dipper, you need to concentrate of the handle of it, not the bowl. Mizar is the second star in the handle, if you start from the outermost part of it. You can see in the image I posted that Mizar and Alcor are shown as a pink and blue double star. Don't expect them to look anything but white, however.
What interests me most with today's APOD is the Leo I dwarf - is this object a galaxy or a star cluster ?
Leo 1 is definitely a galaxy, not a cluster. Two things show that it is a galaxy. First, Leo 1 is simply too massive to be a cluster, since its mass is estimated to be 10-30 million times the mass of the Sun. Star clusters don't come that massive.

Second, and even more important, Leo 1 is a multi-generation conglomerate of stars. If you follow one of the links for today's APOD, you'll come to a wikipedia page about Leo 1 where you can read the following:
Gallart et al. (1999) deduce from Hubble Space Telescope observations that the galaxy experienced a major increase (accounting for 70% to 80% of its population) in its star formation rate between 6 Ga and 2 Ga (billion years ago). There is no significant evidence of any stars that are more than 10 Ga old. About 1 Ga ago, star formation in Leo I appears to have dropped suddenly to an almost negligible rate. Some low-level activity may have continued until 200-500 Ma.
So Leo 1 was continuously forming stars for at least four billion years. No star cluster can do that. A star cluster is basically a single-generation conglomerate of stars, where all the members were born at more or less the same time out of the same gas cloud. It is possible for members of the same star cluster to have ages that differ by a few million years, but never, ever a billion years. The reason is that a cluster is always born out of the same gas cloud, as I said, and it may take a few million years for this gas cloud to turn itself into a cluster of stars. But after even a few dozen million years all the gas will be gone from the cluster, and no new stars can be born here. A galaxy, even a dwarf galaxy, has or had access to a much larger and more widespread and clumpy supply of gas. It uses or used up this gas supply gradually, over a long period of time, or in sudden, separate bursts.
And, would it possible to resolve individual stars of this object.
Yes, that would certainly be possible. There are no ultra-bright stars in Leo 1, but there are certainly red giants which are intrinsically brighter than Regulus. With a good telescope or with good photography techniques, it would certainly be possible to photograph some of these red giants individually.
How would individual stars of this object fare with regard to existence of habitable planets ?
According to our current understanding, Leo 1 is probably not an extremely promising place to look for habitable planets. Wikipedia wrote this about Leo 1:
Typical to a dwarf galaxy, the metallicity of Leo I is very low, only one percent that of the Sun.
"Metals" in astro-speak mean any elements that are heavier than hydrogen and helium. Without a reasonably good supply of oxygen, carbon, silicon, iron and other elements that make up most of the Earth, it is hard to make rocky planets. Presumably most of the planets in Leo 1 are gas giants rather than rocky planets like the Earth, although admittedly we don't know enough to be quite sure of that.
There is very good reason to believe that Leo I dwarf is brighter than it actually appears; the cluster seems to be enshrouded in a globule of gas. The Leo I dwarf may be comparable to the Pleiades cluster in many ways.
I think you are both right and wrong about that. Wikipedia wrote this about Leo 1:
In addition, the galaxy may be embedded in a cloud of ionized gas with a mass similar to that of the whole galaxy.
But the Pleiades are embedded in a dust cloud, which spreads the blue light of the brightest stars and creates the beautiful nebula. We see no sign that the the ionized gas around Leo 1 is spreading the light of the constituent stars in a reflection nebula that is at all similar to the Pleiades nebula.

The reason why Leo 1 looks so faint is twofold. First, it is really far away, 800,000 light-years compared with 75 light-years for Regulus. So Leo 1 is at lest 10,000 times farther away than Regulus! No wonder it looks faint. The other reason why Leo 1 looks faint is that its stars are spread out over a relatively large volume. That means that the "stellar density" inside the galaxy is low. The stars are simply quite far apart. And there is no part of the galaxy where the stellar density is high.

But it is fascinating to think that if Regulus was sitting inside this dwarf galaxy, it wouldn't be its brightest star, although its blue color in combination with its brightness would indeed make it stand out.

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Post by Byork » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:44 pm

Thank you very much, Ann, for the diagram of Mizar and the discussion concerning Leo I and the Pleiades. I live in the northern hemisphere; but I may need to take an extending hike up the hills to avoid city light glare. Mizar recently drew my attention because of its multiple stellar disposition. If the two components are indeed separated by about 1 LY this raises a lot of questions about the planetary stock associated with the individual stars *

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Post by Sergio » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:55 pm

Thanks Ann for your reply
Very interesting comments
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Post by hal » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:57 pm

Do all stars and planets shine on their own or are they reflecting light from other stars or planets?
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Post by saturn2 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:26 pm

Distance from Earth to Star Regulus 75 light years.
Distance from Earth to Leo I 800,000 light years.
Leo I is into the our Local Group of galaxies.
The bright Star Regulus is many big.
How many times more big that our Sun?

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Post by printingsource » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:33 pm

I like this becuase the distance of ear to the star regulus is about 77 light years

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Post by TNT » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:08 am

hal wrote:Do all stars and planets shine on their own or are they reflecting light from other stars or planets?
hal
Stars shine on their own, but not planets. Planets reflect light that a nearby star produces.
The following statement is true.
The above statement is false.

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Re: APOD: Bright Star Regulus near the Leo I... (2012 Jan 10

Post by Ann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:00 am

saturn2 wrote:
The bright Star Regulus is many big.
How many times more big that our Sun?
According to the second "Regulus" link for today's APOD, the link to the text about Regulus by Jim Kaler, Regulus is 4.3 times wider than the Sun "along its waist", which means that you could place 4.3 stars like the Sun "side by side" and come up with a width which is the same as the width of Regulus. But Regulus is very flattened, so it is not as "high" as 4.3 Suns "piled up on one another". Instead, it is about as "high" as 3 Suns piled up on one another.

Jim Kaler says that Regulus contains about 3.4 times as much mass as the Sun. So if you merged 3.4 stars like the Sun, you would get a star similar to Regulus, although Regulus is a star with many "special characteristics" of its own.

Jim Kaler says that Regulus is 150 times brighter than the Sun in visual light, but my software says that it is 140 times brighter than the Sun.

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I like this becuase the distance of ear to the star regulus is about 77 light years
And I have just repeated the number given by today's APOD, 75 light-years. Belatedly I have checked it with my software, which says that the distance to Regulus is 79.30 ± 0.67 light-years.

I like the idea that the distance to Regulus is 77 light-years, because it is such an easy figure to remember!

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Mizar recently drew my attention because of its multiple stellar disposition. If the two components are indeed separated by about 1 LY this raises a lot of questions about the planetary stock associated with the individual stars
Nothing is known about the number of planets associated with Mizar and Alcor, if any. There is a reason for our ignorance. The interest of astronomers in the planets of A-type stars (like Mizar and Alcor) has been relatively low. The lack of interest has reasons of its own. First, it is harder to detect planets around A-type stars than around lower-mass stars, simply because the A-type stars are brighter and more massive than lower-type stars and are less affected, both when it comes to the "wobbling" and to the "dimming" caused by planets, than lower-mass stars. I also believe that A-type stars may be slightly less "settled" and intrinsically a little more variable than lower-mass, often older stars, which also makes it harder to know if any variations spotted by astronomers have anything to the presence of planets.

A-type stars are also a lot more rare than lower-mass stars. They are bright and showy, but they make up a tiny proportion of the total stellar population.

But A-type stars are also considered bad repositories for life. That is because A-type stars run through their life cycles so quickly that life barely has time to get going on any planets that are orbiting them, much less evolve into anything more interesting than bacteria, before the stars first swell up into red giants and then shrink into fiercely ultraviolet white dwarfs, thus sterilizing their planets. And since the search for extrasolar planets is ultimately a search for extrasolar life, my guess is that most planetary astronomers haven't found it worth their while to search for planets around A-type stars.

And thanks for the kind words from many people here!

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Post by islader2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:55 am

@ ANN {without an 'e'} I am really glad that you could find time to return to today's post==since your posts today are very informative. Thank for all of us who follow you adoringly. :D :D :D

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Post by Flase » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:06 am

Ann wrote:There are many other fascinating things to be learned from the links. For example, Regulus appears to have a very small close-in companion that may be an underweight white dwarf. Regulus may originally have been the lower mass companion of a larger and hotter main sequence star, which, when it turned into a red giant, started transferring much of its mass to its lower mass companion. The lower mass companion, present-day Regulus, "put on weight", became hotter, bluer and more luminous. It also had its rotation sped up (hence the rotation-flattened shape of Regulus). But the shrinking red dwarf turned into an emaciated white dwarf! The same thing may be happening to Beta Persei, Algol!
Interesting. As this matter travels between the stars, does it have any spectrographic signature? Anything like the x-rays of a black hole binary?
And what about planets? Surely they would fall plop into the more greedy star.
It would make this BBC headline untrue: Exoplanets are around every star, study suggests

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Post by Flase » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:07 am

bother I can't get rid of the entry with the buggy code. Sorry

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Post by geckzilla » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:28 pm

I got it, Flase.
Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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