APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

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APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

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Image Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945

Explanation: Large spiral galaxy NGC 4945 is seen edge-on near the center of this cosmic galaxy portrait. In fact, NGC 4945 is almost the size of our own Milky Way Galaxy. Its own dusty disk, young blue star clusters, and pink star forming regions standout in the sharp, colorful telescopic image. About 13 million light-years distant toward the expansive southern constellation Centaurus, NGC 4945 is only about six times farther away than Andromeda, the nearest large spiral galaxy to the Milky Way. Though the galaxy's central region is largely hidden from view for optical telescopes, X-ray and infrared observations indicate significant high energy emission and star formation in the core of NGC 4945. Its obscured but active nucleus qualifies the gorgeous island universe as a Seyfert galaxy and likely home to a central supermassive black hole.

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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Ann » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:05 am

Surf's up!

NGC 4945 is a very interesting galaxy. It is very dusty, of course, but it seems to be in a bit of turmoil, too. Look at the lower left part of the disk, where huge brown "waves" seem to be breaking!

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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Boomer12k » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:20 am

Wonderful picture.

From Wikipedia....

Seyfert galaxies are characterized by extremely bright nuclei, and spectra which have very bright emission lines of hydrogen, helium, nitrogen, and oxygen. These emission lines exhibit strong Doppler broadening, which implies velocities from 500 to 4000 km/s, and are believed to originate near an accretion disc surrounding the central black hole.

So, a very active place.

I wonder if an "active" Galaxy would have any affect on the life zone of a galaxy?

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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by K1NS » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:20 pm

I always look through the foreground stars to see if one is actually a background galaxy, and I think I see one.

At the left margin, center, almost perpendicular to NGC 4945, looks like a distant spiral galaxy. From the apparent size, it must be a couple hundred million LYs away.

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M77 Seyfert Street

Post by neufer » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:28 pm

http://messier.seds.org/m/m077.html wrote: <<M77 (NGC 1068) is about 60 million light years distant, approximately the same distance but another direction as the Virgo Cluster, and is receding from us at about 1100 km/sec, as was first measured by Vesto M. Slipher of Lowell Observatory in 1914; it was the second galaxy with a large measured redshift after the Sombrero galaxy, M104 (R. Brent Tully's Nearby Galaxies Catalog gives a somewhat smaller value for the distance, 47 million light years, and values in other sources are spread both below and above the Virgo Cluster value; the higher values would make M77 the most remote Messier object).

From investigations of the inner disk's rotational velocities, E.M. Burbidge, G.R. Burbidge and K.H. Prendergast (1959) found that M77's inner disk in inclined against the line of sight by 51 degrees. They estimated the inner disk's mass at 27 billion solar masses, while the total mass of this galaxy must be of the order of 1 trillion solar masses.

This galaxy is unique and peculiar because of several reasons. First of all, its spectrum shows peculiar features in the form of broad emission lines, indicating that giant gas clouds are rapidly moving out of this galaxy's core, at several 100 km/sec. This feature was first discovered by Edward A. Fath of Lick Observatory in 1908 (Fath 1909) who identified six "Planetary Nebula type" emission lines (H Beta, [O II] 3727, [N III] 3869, [O III] 4363, 4959, 5007), confirmed by Vesto M. Slipher at Lowell Observatory in a much better spectrum in 1917 (Slipher 1917) and particularly mentioned by Edwin P. Hubble in his historic paper on "extragalactic nebulae" of 1926 (Hubble, 1926). It classifies M77 as a Seyfert galaxy of type II [like NGC 4945] (type I Seyfert galaxies exhibit an even larger expansion velocity of several 1000 km/sec); it is the nearest and brightest representative of this class of active galaxies. This remarkable class of galaxies is named after its discoverer, Carl K. Seyfert, who described them first in 1943 (Seyfert 1943).

An enormous energy source is required to generate this velocity, which must sit in the galaxy's core or nucleus. This core was found to be a strong radio source, which was discovered by Berbard Yarnton Mills in 1952 and designated Cetus A, and listed as 3C 71 in the Third Cambridge Catalogue of Radio Sources. It was investigated optically with the Hubble Space Telescope. Infrared investigations with the 10-meter Keck telescope by Caltech astronomers have revealed a strong pointlike source, less than 12 light-years in diameter, and surrounded by an elongated structure of 100 light years extension (a concentration of stars or interstellar matter); these structures were not apparent in the Hubble images in the visible light. M77, as well as other Seyfert galaxies, has been known to be bright infrared radiators since some time.

It were Donald E. Osterbrook and R.A.R. Parker in 1965 who brought up the hypothesis that the active nuclei of Seyfert galaxies might be thought of as miniature quasars (quasi-stellar radio sources), according to Burnham. This view has been confirmed now by decade-long research: Probably all types of active galactic nuclei (AGNs), including Seyfert nuclei, radio galaxies, quasars, BL Lacertae objects, and others, are caused by the same physical reason, a central supermassive object which accumulates gaseous matter from its surrounding neighborhood. The variety of observed phenomena is simply a consequence of different viewing angles and different rates of matter supply falling into the objects.

In case of M77, the central object which is responsible for the Seyfert activity has been found to have a mass of about 10 million solar masses, via IR observations from Caltech. Radio astronomers of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) and the 100-meter-diameter radio telescope of the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy at Effelsberg, Germany found a giant disk of some 5 light-years diameter orbiting this object, which contains water molecules (NRAO PR of January 15, 2000). >>
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by BDanielMayfield » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:32 pm

Boomer12k wrote: ... a very active place.

I wonder if an "active" Galaxy would have any affect on the life zone of a galaxy?
If the jets from the SMBH are pointed out away from the galaxy’s disk (which I think would be the much more common orientation) then I think that the answer to this question would be not much. Surely the Milky Way’s SMBH has been very active at times during the very lengthy existence of life on the Earth, which I take as reassuring evidence. :ssmile:
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by stephen63 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:53 pm

Worst case scenario.....maybe.
So much for anything living in the nearby galaxy.
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Ann » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:33 pm

stephen63 wrote:Worst case scenario.....maybe.
So much for anything living in the nearby galaxy.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
That's a very fine video, stephen63! Fortunately, while these jets are not so rare, they hardly ever seem to hit anything much. A jet more or less destroying a companion galaxy is an extremely rare occurrence indeed - but it could happen! NGC 4945 won't be doing it to us, however.

I still like the "rough seas" of NGC 4945. Surf's up, indeed. And you may check out this galaxy too, M108, where surf's not up but fin is down - is that a galaxy-sized shark approaching?

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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Ann » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:41 pm

Really, though, this truly is a great APOD. Note how we can really see that NGC 4945 is very far away, because it's chock full of small stars - likely clusters - as if the entire galaxy had broken out in a tremendous case of many-colored hives! Note that the background around the galaxy doesn't have nearly as many stars and often not such small-looking stars. Also note how the dust in the galaxy is raging and boiling and forming fantastic structures.

NGC 4945 is a more-than-average "violent" galaxy, I'd say. But it really looks splendid here! :D

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3C 321 blast off!

Post by neufer » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:35 pm

stephen63 wrote:
Worst case scenario.....maybe.
So much for anything living in the nearby galaxy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3C_321 wrote:
<<3C 321 is a system of two galaxies rotating around each other. They are notable for showing the first observed galaxy SMITING another galaxy with a blast of energy, which is theorized to be from a supermassive black hole at the center of the former galaxy.

The larger galaxy, dubbed the "Death Star Galaxy" by NASA astronomers, has an energetic jet directed towards its companion. The discovery was announced by NASA Dec 18 2007. Observation of the enormous jet was possible due to the combined efforts of both space and ground-based telescopes.>>
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Anthony Barreiro » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:01 pm

stephen63 wrote:Worst case scenario.....maybe.
So much for anything living in the nearby galaxy.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
Very cool video indeed! To get a vivid simulation of what's going on, a clear explanation, a composite image, and the individual component wavelengths of the composite image in a three-minute video is very satisfying!
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by stephen63 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:07 pm

Ann wrote:Really, though, this truly is a great APOD. Note how we can really see that NGC 4945 is very far away, because it's chock full of small stars - likely clusters - as if the entire galaxy had broken out in a tremendous case of many-colored hives! Note that the background around the galaxy doesn't have nearly as many stars and often not such small-looking stars. Also note how the dust in the galaxy is raging and boiling and forming fantastic structures.

NGC 4945 is a more-than-average "violent" galaxy, I'd say. But it really looks splendid here! :D

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That reminded me of a question I never took the time to get an answer to. If all those stars are indistinguishable from that great distance, how can you possibly target an individual star(Cepheid variable), even if they are very luminous, to determine it's distance?

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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:35 pm

stephen63 wrote:That reminded me of a question I never took the time to get an answer to. If all those stars are indistinguishable from that great distance, how can you possibly target an individual star(Cepheid variable), even if they are very luminous, to determine it's distance?
In a nearby galaxy like NGC 4945, the stars are not indistinguishable. High resolution telescopes in space and on Earth can resolve individual stars from their surrounding stars. In fact, we can only use Cepheid variables for estimating the distance of nearby galaxies- closer than about 50 million ly. Farther than that, we can't typically resolve them, and therefore must use other techniques for figuring distance (although a handful of Cepheids have been detected as far as 100 million ly).
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Re: APOD: Nearby Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945 (2013 Jan 23)

Post by saturno2 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:38 pm

Spiral Galaxy NGC 4945
In this Galaxy see that the disk is not very well defined as in the
Sombrero Galaxy or Andromeda, for example.
Here I see a disk in anrchy

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