APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

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APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by APOD Robot » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:05 am

Image Portrait of NGC 3628

Explanation: Sharp telescopic views of NGC 3628 show a puffy galactic disk divided by dark dust lanes. Of course, this portrait of the magnificent, edge-on spiral galaxy puts some astronomers in mind of its popular moniker, the Hamburger Galaxy. It also reveals a small galaxy nearby (below), likely a satellite of NGC 3628, and a very faint but extensive tidal tail. The drawn out tail stretches for about 300,000 light-years, even beyond the left edge of the frame. NGC 3628 shares its neighborhood in the local universe with two other large spirals M65 and M66 in a grouping otherwise known as the Leo Triplet. Gravitational interactions with its cosmic neighbors are likely responsible for creating the tidal tail, as well as the extended flare and warp of this spiral's disk. The tantalizing island universe itself is about 100,000 light-years across and 35 million light-years away in the northern springtime constellation Leo.

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by Ann » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:26 am


Nice image! Mike Selby and Mark Hanson create such great portraits of galaxies! :D

However... the Hamburger Galaxy?


No, the Hamburger Galaxy is clearly the Subway Sandwich Galaxy instead!

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by De58te » Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:48 pm

I'm trying to wrap my head around of how the 300.000 ly tidal tail was formed. The description says that likely gravitational forces from its two neighbors in the Leo Triplet created it. Yet looking athe the Leo Triplet link we see that NGC 3628 is perpendicular to the two others and they are below with even M65 below and to the right. In school I learned that gravity only pulls, it never pushes. But here it looks like the gravity actually pushed the tidal tail away in the opposite direction? Could it be that NGC 3628 is actually spinning and many millennia ago when the tail formed it was actually end on and much closer to the other two galaxies?

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by VictorBorun » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:24 pm

to my eye, the striking difference of this APOD from Milky Way's images is the many background galaxies.
We can't see those so easily near Milky Way's plane from our point inside the disk.

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by Ann » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:43 pm

De58te wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:48 pm I'm trying to wrap my head around of how the 300.000 ly tidal tail was formed. The description says that likely gravitational forces from its two neighbors in the Leo Triplet created it. Yet looking athe the Leo Triplet link we see that NGC 3628 is perpendicular to the two others and they are below with even M65 below and to the right. In school I learned that gravity only pulls, it never pushes. But here it looks like the gravity actually pushed the tidal tail away in the opposite direction? Could it be that NGC 3628 is actually spinning and many millennia ago when the tail formed it was actually end on and much closer to the other two galaxies?

A 300,000 light-year-long tidal tail is certainly impressive. I can say absolutely nothing on exactly how it was formed.

All I'm saying is that other galaxies have various kinds of tails, too.


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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by VictorBorun » Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:49 am

Ann wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:43 pm
De58te wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:48 pm I'm trying to wrap my head around of how the 300.000 ly tidal tail was formed. The description says that likely gravitational forces from its two neighbors in the Leo Triplet created it. Yet looking athe the Leo Triplet link we see that NGC 3628 is perpendicular to the two others and they are below with even M65 below and to the right. In school I learned that gravity only pulls, it never pushes. But here it looks like the gravity actually pushed the tidal tail away in the opposite direction? Could it be that NGC 3628 is actually spinning and many millennia ago when the tail formed it was actually end on and much closer to the other two galaxies?
A 300,000 light-year-long tidal tail is certainly impressive. I can say absolutely nothing on exactly how it was formed.
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One known way for a galaxy to grow a straight or slightly curved bluish tail (which is a starbirth lane through intergalactic media) is to merge with a dwarf galaxy, have your central billion suns massive black hole merge with their 100 million suns massive BH and, if you are lucky and the spins of the two BHs are co-directional, voila — the two pinch the space fabric between them, firing a gravitation wave packet mostly in one direction; the recoil gives the merged BH a velocity of 1500 km/s and kicks it out of you, growing a tail that would stay bright for 30 million years.
The sad thing is that if you want to grow another tail you must first grow another billion suns massive BH, and that would take a billion years; then you can start looking for a dwarf galaxy with matching BH's spin, but your old tail is long since fainted by then.

A rather straight bluish tail with a tiny bright tip in the wake of a kicked-out BH looks like this
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(The filters used are red to account for a large red shift)

I think if a runaway supermassive BH is somewhat slow, its path may curve in the gravity well of the galaxy's dark matter halo and it can slow down. A slow BH in a distant thin area of the intergalactic media would result in a faint tail's tip.

Anyway, the start of the starbirth lane should be straight and should begin right at the core of the galaxy. That test is passed by this APOD OK.
It may also be faint and sparse compared to the rest of the tail because it's 10 million years older.
That is not so for this APOD. Here I am confused.

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by Astronut » Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:16 am

Can anyone explain the marvelous tail on NGC 5907?

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Re: APOD: Portrait of NGC 3628 (2023 Apr 14)

Post by Ann » Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:43 am

Astronut wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:16 am Can anyone explain the marvelous tail on NGC 5907?

What we are seeing in NGC 5907 is the stellar stream of a dwarf galaxy that is orbiting NGC 5907 and being shredded as it does so. It leaves a long trail of stars on the sky, which follow the orbit of the original dwarf galaxy.

There are stellar streams which have been left behind from dwarf galaxies orbiting the Milky Way, too. They are detectable with telescopes on the Earth.

Stellar streams and their remnant dwarf galaxies SDSS Vasily Belokurov Roen Kelly.png

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