APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

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Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:49 pm

Status update.
Regarding the image I submitted that became APOD for August 5, 2011.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110805.html and my picasa web watermark version https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S3_t ... trail2.jpg

I've done some slight PP as follows to the master image:
-remove distracting "stuff";
.....red/green hot sensor pixel's (over 45 of them)
.....removed 2 of the major distracting plane trails in the lower RH portion
-slight curve enhancement, just slightly brighter
-1600 pix size instead of 1024 (perfect for onscreen max viewing by most monitors)
-added watermark lower RH corner

I've asked Robert/Jerry can this re-visited image replace the current one for the APOD website and the End of year voting.
I'm sure they are busy so not sure if it can be done.

It truly is a better image now.
Here it is for your comments, newer one on LH, original APOD on RH:
Image Image

Link to full re-visited image 1600pix size
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5PgL ... 252529.jpg

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by BMAONE23 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:31 pm

Congrats on being published in the WSJ
AND
For your Second Place finish for APOD of the Month for August

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:25 pm

I thought interest in my NASA APOD image died, a few days ago I got email from The Wall Street Journal saying they wanted to use it with a book review "How We See the Sky: A Naked-Eye Tour of Day and Night" by Thomas Hockey.
After emails back/forth, and phone discussion, it ran in this Saturday WSJ paper(Nov-19) and online that day, $100 USD for limited usage.

My 1st sale, dinner for the family!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... LS_Books_8

my wife snapped this via iPhone/facebook. (Starbucks sells the WSJ nationwide)
It was actually bigger than I thought it would be.
Image

For the record, I did additional PP on this image:
-removed 40-ish hot red/green pixels spots
-tweaked the image via curves

it has more pop than the original NASA APOD did, that was a quickie dump the 370+ images and process them overnight thing.
I'll have to re-submit that to the editors for the end of year CD.


A sincere "Thanks" to everyone here...

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:24 am

Indigo_Sunrise wrote:Hey mtbdudex - it looks like you got your 15 minutes of fame extended to 20! :lol:

Now, when does the next 'innovative image' come out?

:ssmile:
There are a few more widefield type image concepts I am playing with right now with that involve combination of long exposure on EQ mount + stationary/stacked images, when one of those "make the grade" I will submit it as consideration for APOD.
(I got my 1st scope in July-2011, the 8" SCT EdgeHD 800 CGEM, so learning that now to combine with widefield techniques)
Here's me just playing with it on moon shoots/other
Image Image
Yea- I gotta lose that camera strap also....
Peace, there is so much diversity in all the images here,I truly love the visual appeal of them.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by Indigo_Sunrise » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:49 am

Hey mtbdudex - it looks like you got your 15 minutes of fame extended to 20! :lol:

Now, when does the next 'innovative image' come out?

:ssmile:

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:53 pm

Hey gang, yesterday I was phone interviewed by local newspaper writer for "Livingston Press and Argus", and today (Wed 9/28) both in hard copy (paper) and online he wrote an article.
http://www.livingstondaily.com/article/ ... |Frontpage

Word quickly spread at work, my facebook friends, etc....14 minutes and 58 seconds of fame ...thx NASA and APOD people.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by geckzilla » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:57 am

Nice photos, mtb. Thanks for posting them.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:27 am

Some of the blogs on the web took liberty (without email or contacting me) with what Mr Robert Nemiroff and Mr Jerry Bonnell wrote up and published on the NASA APOD site, therefore I've compiled the below.

I'd like to add this image came out of my multiple attempts at capturing fireflies last Summer in a pleasing way, not by accident!

We have 2+ acres, and front is 1 acre of wildflowers, so lots of insects/butterflies/spiders/etc live there + wildlife (deer/etc) go thru there.

That's why we have fireflies there, we choose to be more natural/green instead of lawn.

Facts/History behind this shot:

Summer of 2010 I attempted the single exposure for firefly capture, just a few green dots in single 20 sec exposure:
June-16-2010 attempts these 2 :
Image
Can you see the fireflies?? well neither can I...but all part of the learning trial/error process
Image

Then July-11-2010 my 1st stacked attempt gave so-so results, but showed some possibility for neat shot:
Image


This 2nd stacked attempt of 8 second images from July 14-2010 had more promise:
Image

What I learned is the time of evening/dusk to begin shooting at, taking trial shots to balance exposure/capture of fireflies vs over bright sky, etc.

Then I backed up more for this multi-exposure shot taken July-16-2010, which included star trails.
In my mind, this was where it was at, fireflies + star trails, so that was my mindset for next future attempt .
Image

Moving to the bottom of the driveway for more wide field view and rules of 1/3 was learned by this July-16-2010 capture in portrait orientation - with fireflies
Image

and winter star trails image taken Feb-4-2011 here in landscape orientation:
Image


Therefore, when my wife asked me to capture the fireflies on July-20-2011, I took all the above lessons learned:
-multiple captures over time
-composition rules of 1/3 for the scene
-choose landscape over portrait
-special software to process the image

and also got lucky with timing to capture the rising moon in the garage 2 window reflection.
Which, as some may have noticed there is a ladder leaning against the garage side.
I was doing the 5 year loghome re-staining, so the window screens were off, thereby letting the rising moon light reflect and be captured in each 20 sec exposure.
IF I was not re-staining chances are the relative brightness of the moon's reflection would not be apparent off the screen covered windows.

Lots of things came together to make the August 5, 2011 APOD shot; chance + learned skills.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:04 pm

neptunium wrote:
Ann wrote:Yes, well - many of the stars we can see in the sky follow their own paths, away from the midplane of the Milky Way. Like Arcturus. (Is Arcturus in the picture? Beats me, because I'm horribly bad at identifying stars from star trails.)
Well, I can make out the stars of the Big Dipper to the upper left of center, so Arcturus would be off the left side.

I have to say, though, that this is one of the best pictures APOD has displayed.
Here's one of the 370+ images, this one about 45 minutes into the total 2+ hours, hard to make out sky detail
Image

This link is to a 640pix image, more detail seen
(this site restricts image display to 400pix?)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uvcU ... 525202.jpg

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by neptunium » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:50 pm

Ann wrote:Yes, well - many of the stars we can see in the sky follow their own paths, away from the midplane of the Milky Way. Like Arcturus. (Is Arcturus in the picture? Beats me, because I'm horribly bad at identifying stars from star trails.)
Well, I can make out the stars of the Big Dipper to the upper left of center, so Arcturus would be off the left side.

I have to say, though, that this is one of the best pictures APOD has displayed.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by islader2 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:36 am

ATTN neufer ATTN. The way you put down guest/chicol was a masterpiece of wit==too bad guest has no concept of your supreme wit. However, I love your wit and wisdom and look forward to more. Let us not delete guest from Asterisk*, he is such a source of sarcasm to those of us with advanced degrees in our sphere of expertise. Thanx.











attn neufer

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by Indigo_Sunrise » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:56 pm

mtbdudex wrote:Thx everyone for nice messages.

btw, 100% of the credit for originating this shot goes to my wife.
My wife commented to me “the fireflies are really active tonight, why don’t you try and get some in a photo”….I looked outside and it was a hot/warm/humid evening and she was right.

I can take credit for capturing the startrails/fireflies, now the rising moon reflection in the garage 2 windows…that was totally luck, and for astrophoto people that made the shot – and why it got posted to APOD

...

Prior to NASA posting my image they informed me it was chosen late last night.
I sent them this response (to jerry bonnell, NASA guy ):
I'm sure you've heard this before, but please pass this on:

You guys/gals at NASA inspire all of us in the public with your continued excellence in all Space Endeavors.
Never, never, never underestimate the positive impact on so many lives, including my 3 young children (9, 7, 5).
We all need to continually dream, and NASA fuels that for so many of us.

regards,
Mike Rosinski

What a gracious response!
And very interesting - and fun - image!


8-)

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by mtbdudex » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:42 pm

Thx everyone for nice messages.

btw, 100% of the credit for originating this shot goes to my wife.
My wife commented to me “the fireflies are really active tonight, why don’t you try and get some in a photo”….I looked outside and it was a hot/warm/humid evening and she was right.

I can take credit for capturing the startrails/fireflies, now the rising moon reflection in the garage 2 windows…that was totally luck, and for astrophoto people that made the shot – and why it got posted to APOD
Lemniscate wrote:The short interruption near the end of the star trails, where does that come from? I don't see it in the stacked timelapse video.
Good eye - for 6-7 images the U of M Emergency helicopter, which flies North/South over our home in its flight path, came into the frames.
Instead of editing it out of each of those frames I just deleted them, it was in the initial one, but the bright streak took away from the image.
So I re-did the stacking w/o those frames, that's where the gap comes from.
I might go to those 6-7 images, PP out the helicopter trail, and re-stack the images.....but that takes more time....

Here is a winter shot of almost same angle, Dec-15-2010
Image

Over almost 2 years I've been taking astrophotography pictures and documenting them @ Canon P.O.T.N. website forum.
I call that my "Top 10 in 2010 to shoot (Astronomy, non telescope)"
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/sho ... ost9752647

I've learned much w/o a telescope at all, just tripod, DSLR, various lens, wireless timer, star chart(s), and much help from fellow people who love the heavens above.

Just 4 weeks I took "the big plunge" and bought my first "real" telescope, a Celestron EdgeHD 800 CGEM SCT + associated gear.
A whole new learning curve for me.

Prior to NASA posting my image they informed me it was chosen late last night.
I sent them this response (to jerry bonnell, NASA guy ):
I'm sure you've heard this before, but please pass this on:

You guys/gals at NASA inspire all of us in the public with your continued excellence in all Space Endeavors.
Never, never, never underestimate the positive impact on so many lives, including my 3 young children (9, 7, 5).
We all need to continually dream, and NASA fuels that for so many of us.

regards,
Mike Rosinski

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by NoelC » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:31 pm

A beautiful view of nature. I love it when technology is used to give us alternate views of what we're used to seeing another way. Congratulations on a very nice APOD, Mike.
Lemniscate wrote:The short interruption near the end of the star trails, where does that come from? I don't see it in the stacked timelapse video.
Just a guess, but note in the video near the end where there's a dashed plane trail... Mike may have left that out so the image would look nicer.

-Noel

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by tamarshall » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:19 pm

This is one of my favorite APOD's in a long time bc of the connection between Earth and the cosmos. My love of nature led me to camping, camping led to watching the night sky, which led to my interest in astronomy. One thing that was always present on those summer nights looking up were fireflies. This picture reminds me of the simplicity of life that led me to the complexity of astronomy. Way cool !!!

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by bystander » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:40 pm

nstahl wrote:I hope y'all watched the Juno launch like I just did and are looking forward to a bunch of fine Jupiter APODs in five years.
Juno: Unlocking Jupiter's Mysteries (NASA New Frontiers)

Watch this space for future updates on Juno.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by moonstruck » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:31 pm

Very interesting...thanks Mike.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by Ann » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:50 pm

biddie67 wrote:

It seems as though the Earth vis-a-vie the stars has a greater predictable pattern of movement than those delightful fireflies; but don't tell the flyflies that - their sense of ordered movement just isn't as obvious to us mere humans ....
Yes, well - many of the stars we can see in the sky follow their own paths, away from the midplane of the Milky Way. Like Arcturus. (Is Arcturus in the picture? Beats me, because I'm horribly bad at identifying stars from star trails.)

But it's interesting to think that the stars are a bit like the fireflies in that they are really moving this way and that - it's only that they are so humongously far away that their "proper motion" is totally undetectable for a human being during his or her lifetime, let alone during a single night of astrophotography.

All the cosmos is in motion. It's just so much easier for us humans to detect the individual dancing of the fireflies that the individual motion of the stars.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
This song appears to be "The Chaos Path" by Arcturus. :wink:

Ann

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by nstahl » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:48 pm

I hope y'all watched the Juno launch like I just did and are looking forward to a bunch of fine Jupiter APODs in five years.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by biddie67 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:25 pm

(( laughing )) What a wonderful serendipity!!!

It seems as though the Earth vis-a-vie the stars has a greater predictable pattern of movement than those delightful fireflies; but don't tell the fireflies that - their sense of ordered movement just isn't as obvious to us mere humans ....

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by tECH hIPPY » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:19 pm

This pretty picture sums up much of my experience with the night sky. I don't have any optics beyond my glasses or a secluded observatory or any astronomy education beyond my daily perusal of APOD and some TV shows but I so love looking at the sky and watching the fireflies and listening to the crickets and frogs on a clear summer evening. On a night like this one (pictured), life is really, really good.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by neufer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:21 pm

Chicolini wrote:
These are the kind of pictures that make APOD great. Its just a shame all the expensive other NASA stuff had to spend all the American money (now Juno probe ... whatever ... piggies in their trough ) and rob so many families and kids of their tax dollars needed to enjoy nights filled with fireflies like there.
Rufus T. Firefly: [singing] If any form of pleasure is exhibited, report to me and it will be prohibited! I'll put my foot down, so shall it be... this is the land of the free! The last man nearly ruined this place he didn't know what to do with it. If you think this country's bad off now, just wait till I get through with it! The country's taxes must be fixed, and I know what to do with it. If you think you're paying too much now, just wait till I get through with it!

Rufus T. Firefly: Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot. I implore you, send him back to his father and brothers, who are waiting for him with open arms in the penitentiary. I suggest that we give him ten years in Leavenworth, or eleven years in Twelveworth.

Chicolini: I'll tell you what I'll do: I'll take five and ten in Woolworth.

Rufus T. Firefly: Now, how about lending this country twenty million dollars, you old skinflint?

Chicolini: Twenty million dollars is a lot of money. I'd have to take that up with my Minister of Finance.

Rufus T. Firefly: Well, in the meantime, could you let me have twelve dollars until payday?

Chicolini: Twelve dollars?

Rufus T. Firefly: Don't be scared, you'll get it back. I'll give you my personal note for ninety days. If it isn't paid by then, you can... keep the note.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by owlice » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:43 pm

Last time I checked, fireflies, and being outside to see them, were free; no money needed for the view.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by Guest » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:22 pm

These are the kind of pictures that make APOD great. Its just a shame all the expensive other NASA stuff had to spend all the American money (now Juno probe ... whatever ... piggies in their trough ) and rob so many families and kids of their tax dollars needed to enjoy nights filled with fireflies like there.

Re: APOD: A Summer Night's Dream (2011 Aug 05)

by Lemniscate » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:01 pm

The short interruption near the end of the star trails, where does that come from? I don't see it in the stacked timelapse video.

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