APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

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Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Deee92 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:01 pm

For that I shall eagerly be waiting. :ssmile:

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by geckzilla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:08 pm

An intelligent, sentient computer one day may beg to differ with you.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Deee92 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:29 am

A shame that it should be so. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder - sadly, not in the beholder's artificial detector.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by geckzilla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:08 am

It did look like that to the cellphone. I was thinking earlier about some other posts made recently as well many past incidents involving a comparison of the human eye and an artificial detector. It is not as if light itself is changed when it enters the artificial detector. It simply abides by its own nature. Ergo, both are accurate in their own way. Human nature dictates that we believe our own eyes are somehow superior in this regard.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Deee92 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:53 am

Here's how my cellphone thought it looked.
Though it was a lot more beautiful really, and the fact that I could clearly see two planets (and glimpse the third one occasionally) at dawn was overwhelming.
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Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by neufer » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:44 pm

geckzilla wrote:
APOD would be incredibly boring if all it ever featured was images which faithfully reproduce what the human eye sees. The human eye can't see diddly squat in the dark.
  • "in the dark" :?:
http://www.wired.com/2011/03/light-pollution-map/ wrote:
Help make a better map of global light pollution
Science 23 March 11 by Dave Mosher

"With half of the world's population now living in cities, many urban dwellers have never experienced the wonderment of pristinely dark skies and maybe never will," says the Globe at Night. "This loss, caused by light pollution, is a concern on many fronts: safety, energy conservation, cost, health and effects on wildlife, as well as our ability to view the stars."

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by geckzilla » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:23 pm

e-Van wrote:
Al-manac wrote:Sigh. Art before reality again. There are so many beautiful images of the actual event available from a couple of mornings ago, but the choice here is an unreal "oooh". Can I go outside and see something like this? No. I don't demand the absolute truth (there is none), but at least it would be nice to mention that this was "how I remembered the event in my mind's eye" as opposed to pretending to represent a real single picture. I do love art, and this image is definitely evocative, but this webpage has the word "picture" in the title of the page.
I agree 100%. Would it be that hard for this site to have a kind of educational mission ? I mean, most of the astronomy newbies who saw this picture will be now hunting these 2 planets, in the hope of seeing them as bright and big as our own moon ! No it's not possible to see them that way.
APOD would be incredibly boring if all it ever featured was images which faithfully reproduce what the human eye sees. The human eye can't see diddly squat in the dark.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by neufer » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:45 am

e-Van wrote:
Would it be that hard for this site to have a kind of educational mission ? I mean, most of the astronomy newbies who saw this picture will be now hunting these 2 planets, in the hope of seeing them as bright and big as our own moon!
It is an educational mission to encourage astronomy newbies to hunt for these 2 planets in the predawn hours, in the hope of seeing them as bright & big & close as they get (only every 5 years or so)! (Those with cameras & daughters can see if they can make a new APOD showing the juggling of 3 planets.)
APOD Robot wrote:Image Jupiter and Venus from Earth

Jupiter and Venus will be at it again this week before sunrise,
passing under two degree from each other -- and even with bonus planet Mars nearby.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by e-Van » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:01 am

Al-manac wrote:Sigh. Art before reality again. There are so many beautiful images of the actual event available from a couple of mornings ago, but the choice here is an unreal "oooh". Can I go outside and see something like this? No. I don't demand the absolute truth (there is none), but at least it would be nice to mention that this was "how I remembered the event in my mind's eye" as opposed to pretending to represent a real single picture. I do love art, and this image is definitely evocative, but this webpage has the word "picture" in the title of the page.
I agree 100%. Would it be that hard for this site to have a kind of educational mission ? I mean, most of the astronomy newbies who saw this picture will be now hunting these 2 planets, in the hope of seeing them as bright and big as our own moon ! No it's not possible to see them that way.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Al-manac » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:52 am

Sigh. Art before reality again. There are so many beautiful images of the actual event available from a couple of mornings ago, but the choice here is an unreal "oooh". Can I go outside and see something like this? No. I don't demand the absolute truth (there is none), but at least it would be nice to mention that this was "how I remembered the event in my mind's eye" as opposed to pretending to represent a real single picture. I do love art, and this image is definitely evocative, but this webpage has the word "picture" in the title of the page.

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by ta152h0 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:07 pm

if the bright spots on CERES turn out to be quartz deposits, can I pick an APOD ?

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Tekija » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:17 pm

RedFishBlueFish wrote:
geckzilla wrote:It's a great picture but why is it published for the third time on APOD?
It is a well-loved rerun and today is rerun day. :)
This image is on an orbit with an average period of about 15 months.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120318.html
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140817.html

Next appearance is predicted around March 2017 or so!

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by ta152h0 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:21 pm

I remember this image. And the EROS touchdown image. and so many others and so many to come. Like Pluto's moons

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by RedFishBlueFish » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:15 am

geckzilla wrote:
DNH wrote:It's a great picture but why is it published for the third time on APOD?
It is a well-loved rerun and today is rerun day. :)
Yep 8-)

Even though one thinks it did not quite work out as planned...

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by geckzilla » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:54 am

DNH wrote:It's a great picture but why is it published for the third time on APOD?
It is a well-loved rerun and today is rerun day. :)

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by DNH » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:44 am

It's a great picture but why is it published for the third time on APOD?

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by gadieid » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:29 am

Very nice pose! What took you so long to submit it? Anyway it seems like yesterday so I went to check my own archives and found some of my own photos from back than
http://www.thevenustransit.com/2012/03/ ... art-2.html

Re: APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by Beyond » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:26 am

Cheerios, to the 'humorous pose' link. As for the conjunction, the usual clouds, trees or whatever, gets in the way of that.

APOD: Jupiter and Venus from Earth (2015 Oct 25)

by APOD Robot » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:10 am

Image Jupiter and Venus from Earth

Explanation: It was visible around the world. The sunset conjunction of Jupiter and Venus in 2012 was visible almost no matter where you lived on Earth. Anyone on the planet with a clear western horizon at sunset could see them. Pictured above in 2012, a creative photographer traveled away from the town lights of Szubin, Poland to image a near closest approach of the two planets. The bright planets were separated only by three degrees and his daughter striking a humorous pose. A faint red sunset still glowed in the background. Jupiter and Venus will be at it again this week before sunrise, passing under two degree from each other -- and even with bonus planet Mars nearby.

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