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Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:28 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
neufer wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote: I think the problem is that such a mechanism doesn't explain the nature of the observed spectrum. While there are well understood processes that result in x-ray emission lines, those lines exist against a continuum, and multiple lines are present. It seems like what we have here is a monochromatic source.
I'm not dismissing your original laser suggestion.

I'm just thinking that it would probably involve the excitation of iron ions by ram-pressure stripping from (abundant) hydrogen gas protons. No dark matter physics (or even black hole physics) is necessary when one has two galaxies colliding at 3000 km/s (as Ann suggested).
It wasn't really a suggestion. Just a comment about the first thing I would normally think of when considering a monochromatic source.

It seems like in this case it's easier to say what we aren't looking at then what we are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebulium wrote:

<<Nebulium was a proposed element found in astronomical observation of a nebula by William Huggins in 1864. The strong green emission lines of the Cat's Eye Nebula, discovered using spectroscopy, led to the postulation that an as yet unknown element was responsible for this emission. In 1927, Ira Sprague Bowen showed that the lines are emitted by doubly ionized oxygen (O2+), and no new element was necessary to explain them.

In 1911, John William Nicholson theorized that all known elements consisted of four protoelements, one of which was Nebulium. The development of the periodic table by Dimitri Mendeleev and the determination of the atomic numbers by Henry Moseley in 1913 left nearly no room for a new element. In 1914 French astronomers were able to determine the atomic weight of nebulium. With a measured value of 2.74 for the lines near 372 nm and a slightly lower value for the 500.7 nm line indicating two elements responsible for the spectrum.

Ira Sprague Bowen was working on UV spectroscopy and on the calculation of spectra of the light elements of the periodic table when he became aware of the green lines discovered by Huggins. With this knowledge he was able to suggest that the green lines might be forbidden transitions. They were shown as due to doubly ionized oxygen at extremely low density, rather than the hypothetical nebulium. As Henry Norris Russell put it, "Nebulium has vanished into thin air." Nebulae are typically extremely rarefied, much less dense than the hardest vacuums produced on Earth. In these conditions, lines can form which are suppressed at normal densities. These lines are known as forbidden lines, and are the strongest lines in most nebular spectra.>>
https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Fabian4/Fab_contents.html wrote:
BROAD IRON LINES IN ACTIVE GALACTIC NUCLEI
A.C. Fabian 1, K. Iwasawa 1, C.S. Reynolds 2, 3, A.J. Young 4
Published in PASP, 112, 1145, 2000.

Abstract. An intrinsically narrow line emitted by an accretion disk around a black hole appears broadened and skewed as a result of the Doppler effect and gravitational redshift. The fluorescent iron line in the X-ray band at 6.4 - 6.9 keV is the strongest such line and is seen in the X-ray spectrum of many active galactic nuclei and, in particular, Seyfert galaxies. It is an important diagnostic with which to study the geometry and other properties of the accretion flow very close to the central black hole. The broad iron line indicates the presence of a standard thin accretion disk in those objects, often seen at low inclination. The broad iron line has opened up strong gravitational effects around black holes to observational study with wide-reaching consequences for both astrophysics and physics.

<< 2.1. Line Production

A substantial amount of the power in AGN is thought to be emitted as X-rays from the accretion disk corona in active or flaring regions. Thermal Comptonization (i.e. multiple inverse Compton scattering by hot thermal electrons; Zdziarski et al. 1994) of soft optical/UV disk photons by the corona naturally gives rise to a power-law X-ray spectrum. The flares irradiate the accretion disk which is relatively cold resulting in the formation of a ``reflection'' component within the X-ray spectrum. A similar component is produced in the Solar spectrum by flares on the solar photosphere (Bai & Ramaty 1978), in X-ray binaries by irradiation of the stellar companion (Basko 1978) and in accreting white dwarfs.

The basic physics of X-ray reflection and iron line fluorescence can be understood by considering a hard X-ray (power-law) continuum illuminating a semi-infinite slab of cold gas. When a hard X-ray photon enters the slab, it is subject to a number of possible interactions: Compton scattering by free or bound electrons (5) photoelectric absorption followed by fluorescent line emission, or photoelectric absorption followed by Auger de-excitation. A given incident photon is either destroyed by Auger de-excitation, scattered out of the slab, or reprocessed into a fluorescent line photon which escapes the slab.
Figure 1 shows the results of a Monte Carlo calculation which includes all of the above processes (Reynolds 1996; based on similar calculations by George & Fabian 1991). Due to the energy dependence of photoelectric absorption, incident soft X-rays are mostly absorbed, whereas hard photons are rarely absorbed and tend to Compton scatter back out of the slab. The reflected continuum is therefore a factor of about sigmaT / sigmape below the incident one. Above energies of several tens of kilovolts, Compton recoil reduces the backscattered photon flux. These effects give the reflection spectrum a broad hump-like shape. In addition, there is an emission line spectrum resulting primarily from fluorescent Kalpha lines of the most abundant metals. The iron Kalpha line at 6.4 keV is the strongest of these lines. For most geometries relevant to this discussion, the observer will see this reflection component superposed on the direct (power-law) primary continuum. Under such circumstances, the main observables of the reflection are a flattening of the spectrum above approximately 10 keV (as the reflection hump starts to emerge) and an iron line at 6.4 keV.

The fluorescent iron line is produced when one of the 2 K-shell (i.e. n = 1) electrons of an iron atom (or ion) is ejected following photoelectric absorption of an X-ray. The threshold for the absorption by neutral iron is 7.1 keV. Following the photoelectric event, the resulting excited state can decay in one of two ways. An L-shell (n = 2) electron can then drop into the K-shell releasing 6.4 keV of energy either as an emission line photon (34 per cent probability) or an Auger electron (66 per cent probability). (This latter case is equivalent to the photon produced by the n = 2 -> n = 1 transition being internally absorbed by another electron which is consequently ejected from the ion.) In detail there are two components to the Kalpha line, Kalpha1 at 6.404 and Kalpha2 at 6.391 keV, which are not separately distinguished in our discussion here. There is also a Kbeta line at 7.06 keV and a nickel Kalpha line at 7.5 keV is expected.

For ionized iron, the outer electrons are less effective at screening the inner K-shell from the nuclear charge and the energy of both the photoelectric threshold and the Kalpha line are increased. (The line energy is only significantly above 6.4 keV when the M-shell is lost, i.e. FeXVII and higher states.) The fluorescent yield (i.e. the probability that a photoelectric absorption event is followed by fluorescent line emission rather than the Auger effect) is also a weak function of the ionization state from neutral iron (FeI) upto FeXXIII. For Lithium-like iron (FeXXIV) through to Hydrogen-like iron (FeXXVI), the lack of at least 2 electrons in the L-shell means that the Auger effect cannot occur. For He- and H-like iron ions the line is produced by the capture of free electrons, i.e. recombination. The equivalent fluorescent yield is high and depends on the conditions (see Matt, Fabian & Reynolds 1997).

The fluorescent yield for neutral matter varies as the fourth power of atomic number Z4, for example being less than one half per cent for oxygen. Predicted equivalent widths for low Z lines are given in Matt et al (1997). Fluorescent X-ray spectroscopy is a well-known, non-invasive way to determine the surface composition of materials in the laboratory, or even of a planetary surface.

For cosmic abundances the optical depth to bound-free iron absorption is higher than, but close to, the Thomson depth, The iron line production in an X-ray irradiated surface therefore takes place in the outer Thomson depth. This is only a small fraction of the thickness (say 1 to 0.1 per cent) of a typical accretion disk and it is the ionization state of this thin skin which determines the nature of the iron line.

The strength of the iron line is usually measured in terms of its equivalent width with respect to the direct emission. (The equivalent width is the width of the continuum in, say eV, at the position of the line which contains the same flux as the line. Its determination is not entirely straightforward when the line is very broad.) It is a function of the geometry of the accretion disk (primarily the solid angle subtended by the ``reflecting'' matter as seen by the X-ray source), the elemental abundances of the reflecting matter, the inclination angle at which the reflecting surface is viewed, and the ionization state of the surface layers of the disk. We will address the last three of these dependences in turn.>>

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by rstevenson » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:26 pm

geckzilla wrote:
rstevenson wrote:[edit]
I just downloaded and installed Stylish, a popular add-on for customizing your view of particular sites. It served to remind me why the APOD page needs some rebuilding, even to make it possible to sensibly customize the style for your own viewing needs. The page has effectively no modern structural elements in it, so it's nearly impossible to re-position or style in other ways any of its content elements independently of any other element. For example, it was easy to shrink the description paragraph's width, but it hugged the left page edge. Applying a margin to push it over inexplicably pushed over and shrank the image above it. And so on.
Try this. Though there are no class definitions, there are still ways to get around it. I have done more complicated things by using the order of elements themselves to select what I want... although that still broke sometimes because the links at the bottom of the page are sometimes there, and sometimes not. Anyway, this, so far, has not broken. First two lines optional.

Code: Select all

p, h2, h3, center { font-family: sans-serif; }
h1{ font-weight: normal; font-family: serif; }
p { max-width: 800px; margin: 15px auto; line-height: 130%; }
center p:nth-child(3) { max-width: none; }
Nice! I learned my HTML skills before HTML 5 and its CSS capabilities became common, so I'd never heard of the nth-child(n) selector. Very handy. I see you can also do things like nth-child(odd) to target every second element. It's a good geek day!

Rob

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by geckzilla » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:00 pm

rstevenson wrote:[edit]
I just downloaded and installed Stylish, a popular add-on for customizing your view of particular sites. It served to remind me why the APOD page needs some rebuilding, even to make it possible to sensibly customize the style for your own viewing needs. The page has effectively no modern structural elements in it, so it's nearly impossible to re-position or style in other ways any of its content elements independently of any other element. For example, it was easy to shrink the description paragraph's width, but it hugged the left page edge. Applying a margin to push it over inexplicably pushed over and shrank the image above it. And so on.
Try this. Though there are no class definitions, there are still ways to get around it. I have done more complicated things by using the order of elements themselves to select what I want... although that still broke sometimes because the links at the bottom of the page are sometimes there, and sometimes not. Anyway, this, so far, has not broken. First two lines optional.

Code: Select all

p, h2, h3, center { font-family: sans-serif; }
h1{ font-weight: normal; font-family: serif; }
p { max-width: 800px; margin: 15px auto; line-height: 130%; }
center p:nth-child(3) { max-width: none; }

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:10 pm

neufer wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
neufer wrote: Ergo: Ram-pressure stripping of iron atoms by (abundant) hydrogen gas could provide the energy source.
I think the problem is that such a mechanism doesn't explain the nature of the observed spectrum. While there are well understood processes that result in x-ray emission lines, those lines exist against a continuum, and multiple lines are present. It seems like what we have here is a monochromatic source.
I'm not dismissing your original laser suggestion.

I'm just thinking that it would probably involve the excitation of iron ions by ram-pressure stripping from (abundant) hydrogen gas protons. No dark matter physics (or even black hole physics) is necessary when one has two galaxies colliding at 3000 km/s (as Ann suggested).
It wasn't really a suggestion. Just a comment about the first thing I would normally think of when considering a monochromatic source.

It seems like in this case it's easier to say what we aren't looking at then what we are.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by Ann » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:32 am

neufer wrote:
BDanielMayfield wrote:
neufer wrote:
Aloe hereroensis, showing
inflorescence with branched peduncle
Were you also making an artful allusion to going out on a limb or over a ledge without much underlying support? That would be a fair comparison to FDM, imho.
  • A-ledgedly.
Thanks for the free entertainment, Art and Bruce! :D :lol2:

Ann

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by moontrail » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:22 am

rstevenson wrote:
moontrail wrote:Maybe the explanation would be more readable in a two columns format. It's difficult for me sometimes to read it in the one column format....
There have been previous suggestions to update the APOD page code, in part for exactly this reason, to make it more readable on a greater variety of screens and for a greater variety of humanoids. But so far, there's been no movement in this direction. I even worked out sample page code a few years ago, to no avail. The keepers of the APOD flame have their reasons, of course, for leaving it as is.

It's possible to use a custom style sheet for individual web sites, if it's worth the bother to you to set one up. I tried it once, but didn't find it all that helpful or easy to use, and the browser add-on that made it happen didn't survive a later system and browser update.

A quick fix that you might find useful: temporarily narrow the page (the entire browser window) as far as required. The text will narrow along with the page, of course.

[edit]
I just downloaded and installed Stylish, a popular add-on for customizing your view of particular sites. It served to remind me why the APOD page needs some rebuilding, even to make it possible to sensibly customize the style for your own viewing needs. The page has effectively no modern structural elements in it, so it's nearly impossible to re-position or style in other ways any of its content elements independently of any other element. For example, it was easy to shrink the description paragraph's width, but it hugged the left page edge. Applying a margin to push it over inexplicably pushed over and shrank the image above it. And so on.

Rob
Thanks for the complete information and suggested methods to skip the difficulty.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:55 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
neufer wrote:
Aloe hereroensis, showing
inflorescence with branched peduncle
Were you also making an artful allusion to going out on a limb or over a ledge without much underlying support? That would be a fair comparison to FDM, imho.
  • A-ledgedly.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by ta152h0 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:04 pm

Has that evil look, like WR104

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:11 pm

Were you also making an artful allusion to going out on a limb or over a ledge without much underlying support? That would be a fair comparison to FDM, imho.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:57 pm

Click to play embedded YouTube video.
BDanielMayfield wrote:
A very reasonable question Ann solution Art. Wouldn't such an ordinary, simple explanation like what Annrt has come up with need to be ruled out before calling up a heretofore unheard of explanation like fluorescent dark matter?
The inflorescence of falling bowl of petunias :?:

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:49 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
neufer wrote:
Ergo: Ram-pressure stripping of iron atoms by (abundant) hydrogen gas could provide the energy source.
I think the problem is that such a mechanism doesn't explain the nature of the observed spectrum. While there are well understood processes that result in x-ray emission lines, those lines exist against a continuum, and multiple lines are present. It seems like what we have here is a monochromatic source.
I'm not dismissing your original laser suggestion.

I'm just thinking that it would probably involve the excitation of iron ions by ram-pressure stripping from (abundant) hydrogen gas protons. No dark matter physics (or even black hole physics) is necessary when one has two galaxies colliding at 3000 km/s (as Ann suggested).

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:25 pm

neufer wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
Ann wrote:
So, isn't it possible that the X-rays are another product of this collision and the consequent goings-on at the feeding supermassive black hole?
I believe the problem comes from the fact that the x-rays appear only at a narrow wavelength, like an emission source. The x-rays produced by thermal sources like collisions are broadband, looking like blackbody or graybody emission. The narrowband source suggests a different sort of underlying physics. (My initial guess would have been a natural x-ray laser, but this isn't an area I know much about.)
The hydrogen Lyman-alpha UV line: 121.567 nm = 3/4 Rydberg constant = 10.2 eV
represents (essentially) the highest energy hydrogen line.

For silicon this would correspond to ~ 2 keV = 142 x 10.2 eV
For iron this would correspond to ~ 6.9 keV = 262 x 10.2 eV

Iron is probably the only atom abundant enough to produce strong X-ray lines in the 3.5 keV region.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_1275 wrote:
<<NGC 1275 corresponds to the radio galaxy Perseus A and is situated near the center of the large Perseus Cluster of galaxies. NGC 1275 consists of two galaxies, a central type-cD galaxy in the Perseus Cluster, and a so-called "high velocity system" (HVS) which lies in front of it. The HVS is moving at 3000 km/s towards the dominant system, and is believed to be merging with the Perseus Cluster. The HVS is not affecting the cD galaxy as it lies at least 200 thousand light years from it. however tidal interactions are disrupting it and ram-pressure stripping produced by its interaction with the intracluster medium of Perseus is stripping its gas as well as producing large amounts of star formation within it>>
Hydrogen gas proton rest mass = Mc2= 938 MeV
Proton kinetic energy (3000 km/s) = Mv2/2 = 938 MeV (.01)2/2 = ~ 47 keV

Ergo: Ram-pressure stripping of iron atoms by (abundant) hydrogen gas could provide the energy source.
Then I will recycle my earlier comment re Ann's question:
BDanielMayfield wrote:A very reasonable question Ann solution Art. Wouldn't such an ordinary, simple explanation like what Annrt has come up with need to be ruled out before calling up a heretofore unheard of explanation like fluorescent dark matter?

Bruce

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:23 pm

RJN wrote:
moonshadow1 wrote:
Check the spelling of fluorescent.
Thank you. I have now corrected the spelling of "fluorscent" on the main NASA APOD. After pointed out by an emailer, I also lower-cased the "k" in keV. I apologize for the oversights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflorescence wrote:
<<An inflorescence is a group or cluster of flowers arranged on a stem that is composed of a main branch or a complicated arrangement of branches. Morphologically, it is the modified part of the shoot of seed plants where flowers are formed. The modifications can involve the length and the nature of the internodes and the phyllotaxis, as well as variations in the proportions, compressions, swellings, adnations, connations and reduction of main and secondary axes. Inflorescence can also be defined as the reproductive portion of a plant that bears a cluster of flowers in a specific pattern.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by Chris Peterson » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:20 pm

neufer wrote:Ergo: Ram-pressure stripping of iron atoms by (abundant) hydrogen gas could provide the energy source.
I think the problem is that such a mechanism doesn't explain the nature of the observed spectrum. While there are well understood processes that result in x-ray emission lines, those lines exist against a continuum, and multiple lines are present. It seems like what we have here is a monochromatic source.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by RJN » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:11 pm

moonshadow1 wrote:Check the spelling of fluorescent.
Thank you. I have now corrected the spelling of "fluorscent" on the main NASA APOD. After pointed out by an emailer, I also lower-cased the "k" in keV. I apologize for the oversights.

- RJN

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by neufer » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:16 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Ann wrote:
So, isn't it possible that the X-rays are another product of this collision and the consequent goings-on at the feeding supermassive black hole?
I believe the problem comes from the fact that the x-rays appear only at a narrow wavelength, like an emission source. The x-rays produced by thermal sources like collisions are broadband, looking like blackbody or graybody emission. The narrowband source suggests a different sort of underlying physics. (My initial guess would have been a natural x-ray laser, but this isn't an area I know much about.)
The hydrogen Lyman-alpha UV line: 121.567 nm = 3/4 Rydberg constant = 10.2 eV
represents (essentially) the highest energy hydrogen line.

For silicon this would correspond to ~ 2 keV = 142 x 10.2 eV
For iron this would correspond to ~ 6.9 keV = 262 x 10.2 eV

Iron is probably the only atom abundant enough to produce strong X-ray lines in the 3.5 keV region.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_1275 wrote:
<<NGC 1275 corresponds to the radio galaxy Perseus A and is situated near the center of the large Perseus Cluster of galaxies. NGC 1275 consists of two galaxies, a central type-cD galaxy in the Perseus Cluster, and a so-called "high velocity system" (HVS) which lies in front of it. The HVS is moving at 3000 km/s towards the dominant system, and is believed to be merging with the Perseus Cluster. The HVS is not affecting the cD galaxy as it lies at least 200 thousand light years from it. however tidal interactions are disrupting it and ram-pressure stripping produced by its interaction with the intracluster medium of Perseus is stripping its gas as well as producing large amounts of star formation within it>>
Hydrogen gas proton rest mass = Mc2= 938 MeV
Proton kinetic energy (3000 km/s) = Mv2/2 = 938 MeV (.01)2/2 = ~ 47 keV

Ergo: Ram-pressure stripping of iron atoms by (abundant) hydrogen gas could provide the energy source.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by axinte » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:15 pm

moonshadow1 wrote:Check the spelling of fluorescent.
I come here to say the same.
Funny thing it was ”corrected„ not on the web page but here on the copy text. florescent was corrected with flourescent. You can delete this after correction is done

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:11 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Ann wrote:So, isn't it possible that the X-rays are another product of this collision and the consequent goings-on at the feeding supermassive black hole?
I believe the problem comes from the fact that the x-rays appear only at a narrow wavelength, like an emission source. The x-rays produced by thermal sources like collisions are broadband, looking like blackbody or graybody emission. The narrowband source suggests a different sort of underlying physics. (My initial guess would have been a natural x-ray laser, but this isn't an area I know much about.)
Ah, an unknown narrow emission makes the seek for a new physical source much more reasonable.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by Chris Peterson » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:20 pm

Ann wrote:So, isn't it possible that the X-rays are another product of this collision and the consequent goings-on at the feeding supermassive black hole?
I believe the problem comes from the fact that the x-rays appear only at a narrow wavelength, like an emission source. The x-rays produced by thermal sources like collisions are broadband, looking like blackbody or graybody emission. The narrowband source suggests a different sort of underlying physics. (My initial guess would have been a natural x-ray laser, but this isn't an area I know much about.)

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by bystander » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:11 pm

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by Joules » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:06 pm

Practically a Yin-Yang.
The lack of fine structure is remarkable, and exactly what you'd expect for non-collisional particles.

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:04 pm

Ann wrote:From my amateur viewpoint of ignorance, I must ask:

The X-rays appear to be centered on Perseus A, NGC 1275. NGC 1275 consists of a large elliptical galaxy and a smallish spiral galaxy that is colliding with it. We are talking about a titanic cosmic collision, which is likely driving a lot of gas and dust into the central black hole of Perseus A.

So, isn't it possible that the X-rays are another product of this collision and the consequent goings-on at the feeding supermassive black hole?

Ann
A very reasonable question Ann. Wouldn't such an ordinary, simple explanation like what Ann has come up with need to be ruled out before calling up a heretofore unheard of explanation like fluorescent dark matter?

Bruce

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by rstevenson » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:38 pm

moontrail wrote:Maybe the explanation would be more readable in a two columns format. It's difficult for me sometimes to read it in the one column format....
There have been previous suggestions to update the APOD page code, in part for exactly this reason, to make it more readable on a greater variety of screens and for a greater variety of humanoids. But so far, there's been no movement in this direction. I even worked out sample page code a few years ago, to no avail. The keepers of the APOD flame have their reasons, of course, for leaving it as is.

It's possible to use a custom style sheet for individual web sites, if it's worth the bother to you to set one up. I tried it once, but didn't find it all that helpful or easy to use, and the browser add-on that made it happen didn't survive a later system and browser update.

A quick fix that you might find useful: temporarily narrow the page (the entire browser window) as far as required. The text will narrow along with the page, of course.

[edit]
I just downloaded and installed Stylish, a popular add-on for customizing your view of particular sites. It served to remind me why the APOD page needs some rebuilding, even to make it possible to sensibly customize the style for your own viewing needs. The page has effectively no modern structural elements in it, so it's nearly impossible to re-position or style in other ways any of its content elements independently of any other element. For example, it was easy to shrink the description paragraph's width, but it hugged the left page edge. Applying a margin to push it over inexplicably pushed over and shrank the image above it. And so on.

Rob

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by moontrail » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:21 am

Maybe the explanation would be more readable in a two columns format. It's difficult for me sometimes to read it in the one column format.

Happy New Year to all earthlings and best wishes for all, aliens included!

Re: APOD: Unexpected X-Rays from Perseus... (2018 Jan 02)

by moonshadow1 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:52 am

Check the spelling of fluorescent.

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