Shelf Cloud (APOD 22 Jan 2008)

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by Cherie » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:13 pm

Thanks to you both (Case and npsguy).

Cherie

by npsguy » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:00 pm

Non moving pages Imagemeans the topic is not yet declared a popular whereas the moving Image means it is a popular topic.

The orange versions Image and Image mean the same as the gray versions except that there are unread posts in those topics.

by Case » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:34 am

Cherie wrote:Could someone please explain the circles with flashing (or not) pages to the left of each "discuss" subject.
See the bottom of the forum page for an explanation of the icons.

by Cherie » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 am

I used to get my late-night laughs from Letterman, now I just check into "Discuss" after ooohing and aaahing over the latest APOD. Much laughing out loud from the entries above.

Today's is a beaut! (02/03/08...sorry, I see the URL box, but can I go back to find it and copy it without losing what I've written here?)

I enjoy this site very much...greatly appreciate you who choose the photos and provide the links and you who ask questions and answer them, and your links too. Thanks for helping the rest of us begin to understand. Am learning a lot...and having fun, too.

Could someone please explain the circles with flashing (or not) pages to the left of each "discuss" subject. They don't seem to relate to whether or not I've read the latest entry. Oops, now that I'm logged-in they look different, but still don't know what they signify.

Thanks,
Cherie

by NoelC » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:36 am

One of the more inspiring astronomy photos. ANYBODY can shoot a digital photo of a supernova nowadays, but how many can capture the Wrath of God? Oh wait, they're the same thing.

:)

-Noel

by npsguy » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:42 pm

adrianxw wrote:You should be delighted by todays offering.
As soon as I saw it I said "oh oh" :)

by adrianxw » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:02 pm

Yada yada yada...

*** EDIT ***

You should be delighted by todays offering.

by NoelC » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:32 pm

adrianxw wrote:
The Earth is a planet, in a solar system, in a galaxy, in the universe.
The real point however, is that the site is called Astronomy picture of the day, and there have been a lot of pictures recently that have no real astronomical connection.
In your opinion, and THAT is the pertinent point on a public forum. Quite clearly, based on other responses, in the opinions of others that's not true.

How many millions of years went by with people (or our predecessors) looking up at the sky with their naked eyes before telescopes and astro cameras were invented? The Grand Majority of all astronomy ever done by humanity looked a lot more like the occasional APOD images of clouds than deep exposures of IC434 or pictures of the rings around Uranus.

Indeed we should be extremely thankful that our forebears saw fit to turn this world into a place where we have time to photograph the clouds and debate photographic content with others online rather than searching for food, carrying water, and fighting off marauders before we die at age 24.

Humility is a virtue.

-Noel

by Indigo_Sunrise » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:18 pm

npsguy said:
My 2 cents is that you are right in your criticism but this is just one web site out of many with astronomy images. My suggestiong to anyone who needs to get their daily 'astronomy fix' and APOD didn't quite 'deliver the goods' is to go to some of the Mission websites that NASA runs and look for new images from Cassini or the rovers.

Heck I still go and look at old Viking images and even some of the later Apollo images are just plain awesome.

And don't forget that there are tons of local astronomy groups that post up their images as well. Sometimes you find some pretty amazing stuff.



Very well said! *applause!*

by npsguy » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:12 pm

adrianxw wrote:That is the point I was making. It is still my "start" page and will remain so, but I don't feel it unreasonable to post an occasional criticism.
Adrianxw,

I suspect that most people here were responding to Craterchain's spastic outbreak, not your initial post. His post was overly emotional and I think people were taking shots at him for being such a drama queen (for instance no one here wanted to know about his 'chapped ass' problems but I sure hope he finds a cure it just the same).

Adrianxw your post was rather innocuous.

My 2 cents is that you are right in your criticism but this is just one web site out of many with astronomy images. My suggestiong to anyone who needs to get their daily 'astronomy fix' and APOD didn't quite 'deliver the goods' is to go to some of the Mission websites that NASA runs and look for new images from Cassini or the rovers.

Heck I still go and look at old Viking images and even some of the later Apollo images are just plain awesome.

And don't forget that there are tons of local astronomy groups that post up their images as well. Sometimes you find some pretty amazing stuff.

by adrianxw » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:28 am

The Earth is a planet, in a solar system, in a galaxy, in the universe.
This point appears in several guises in the thread. Taking that point, my holiday snaps are relevent. Porn is part of the universe. A plain black screen - dark matter. You could argue that anything is relevent.

It is also true that NASA is more then just space.

The real point however, is that the site is called Astronomy picture of the day, and there have been a lot of pictures recently that have no real astronomical connection.

That is the point I was making. It is still my "start" page and will remain so, but I don't feel it unreasonable to post an occasional criticism.

by geonuc » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:33 pm

I don't mind the non-astronomy pictures. APOD consistently puts up the coolest pictures and if a few stretch the limits of 'astronomy', that's ok. As stated, perhaps they serve to draw in a few non-astronomy buffs. That would be a bonus. :)

by Bubblecar » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:53 pm

The Earth is a planet, in a solar system, in a galaxy, in the universe.

It's atmosphere is arguably the most interesting we can observe, involving all sorts of spectacular & intriguing structures. These can be related, to some extent, to some of the events we see unfolding in the atmospheres of other planets in our solar system.

Earth atmosphere photos - whether seen from space or the ground - are quite acceptable in APOD, as far as I'm concerned.

by craterchains » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:27 am

It's educational, so such information does not seem imperative to that mission.
:roll: FOCLMAO
thanky, thanky, awwwwww gawd how I laughed.

by Dr. Skeptic » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:26 am

BMAONE23 wrote:
Dr. Skeptic wrote:Do you know what NASA is an acronym for? :idea:

Would it make you happy if the name of the site was changed to:

APODAOPRN

Astronomy picture of the day and other pictures relevant to NASA? :shock:
As long as they don't call it
Astronomy Pictures Of the Day And Pictures Otherwise Relavent to NASA
APODAPORN :lol: :wink:
I didn't have the guts to do it. :P

by iamlucky13 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:18 pm

craterchains wrote:It is our tax dollars and grant monies that they are spending at their respective "whims".
Frankly, I'm happy to spend $0.000001 of tax money per image to learn something about stars, nebulae, planets, comets, galaxies, clouds, airplanes, etc.
We ask for pertinent data, and we get "pretty pictures" instead? Give us the freaking size indicators in the images for a good change, or at least get the wording correct in what yah write.
I've always been of the opinion that part of APOD's appeal is that it keeps things simple enough for the common man. There are images where such information is appropriate, but not always easy to add. Remember, the gentlemen who edit APOD have day jobs, which ought to be their first priority. That said, they do a pretty good job of providing links to related information so that the more educated or curious readers can go deeper into topic. Frequently questions of scale, distance, or wavelength can be answered by checking out a few of these links. But APOD is not a research site. It's educational, so such information does not seem imperative to that mission.

by BMAONE23 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:46 pm

Dr. Skeptic wrote:Do you know what NASA is an acronym for? :idea:

Would it make you happy if the name of the site was changed to:

APODAOPRN

Astronomy picture of the day and other pictures relevant to NASA? :shock:
As long as they don't call it
Astronomy Pictures Of the Day And Pictures Otherwise Relavent to NASA
APODAPORN :lol: :wink:

by Dr. Skeptic » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:09 pm

bystander wrote:
Dr. Skeptic wrote:Do you know what NASA is an acronym for?
National Aeronautics and Space Administration ?and your point is?

I also applaud Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell and all the other folks at APOD. It's the first site I visit when I start my desktop. Thanks.
My point: Aeronautics

NASA's responsibilities includes terrestrial flight, flight safety, terrestrial weather, ...

Its not the NSA. :wink:

by bystander » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:48 pm

Dr. Skeptic wrote:Do you know what NASA is an acronym for?
National Aeronautics and Space Administration ?and your point is?

I also applaud Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell and all the other folks at APOD. It's the first site I visit when I start my desktop. Thanks.

by Dr. Skeptic » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:16 pm

craterchains wrote:To all you that seem to kiis the back side of the producers of this IAC (that is information aquisition and control) web site please note.

It is our tax dollars and grant monies that they are spending at their respective "whims".

Sooooooooooo there are other ways to get it set back as true APOD, there are ways.

EXCUSE ME ! ! ! DOT (that is .gov) GOVERNMENT is not freaking FREE ! ! ! It is paid for by our tax dollars yah freaking twits ! !

We ask for pertinent data, and we get "pretty pictures" instead? Give us the freaking size indicators in the images for a good change, or at least get the wording correct in what yah write.

sheeeeeeeeeesh this site would cause a 12th century scholar to turn over in the grave.

It is because of the very biased wikki crappola that it has become "fuzzy" in some peoples minds. Read the true Greek defination please. What a bunch of aaAAAACHOoooo, , , sorry.
It turns out that it is an astronomy picture - you most certainly reside on a planet different from Earth.

Have you found a source to quantify the amount for the APOD's budget yet? :wink:

Who is it that is in obligation to you to supply "pertinent data", and for you to determine what that "pertinent" is and what is not? :roll:

Do you know what NASA is an acronym for? :idea:

Would it make you happy if the name of the site was changed to:

APODAOPRN

Astronomy picture of the day and other pictures relevant to NASA? :shock:

by Andy Wade » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 am

NoelC wrote:Thank you Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell for all you have done to put up this fine image and all the many, many others that have so brightened my computer screen.

As an astronomy buff, clouds are on my mind as much as any object beyond.

Keep up the good work!

-Noel

P.S., if it helps the complainers, I'd like to point out the EPOD site posts astroimages sometimes too! :)

P.P.S., Public outreach and education websites like the APOD site are arguably amongst the best expenditures of whatever tax or private dollars go into making them! Yet some moron always has to complain. So, folks, where are YOUR public outreach and education websites? Or photos YOU'VE created and submitted for that matter?
Good point. Mine are nothing to do with Astronomy I'm afraid, but nonetheless educational:

http://www.forcez-survivors.org.uk
http://www.oakworthvillage.com

by NoelC » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:49 am

Thank you Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell for all you have done to put up this fine image and all the many, many others that have so brightened my computer screen.

As an astronomy buff, clouds are on my mind as much as any object beyond.

Keep up the good work!

-Noel

P.S., if it helps the complainers, I'd like to point out the EPOD site posts astroimages sometimes too! :)

P.P.S., Public outreach and education websites like the APOD site are arguably amongst the best expenditures of whatever tax or private dollars go into making them! Yet some moron always has to complain. So, folks, where are YOUR public outreach and education websites? Or photos YOU'VE created and submitted for that matter?

by craterchains » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:57 am

To all you that seem to kiis the back side of the producers of this IAC (that is information aquisition and control) web site please note.

It is our tax dollars and grant monies that they are spending at their respective "whims".

Sooooooooooo there are other ways to get it set back as true APOD, there are ways.

EXCUSE ME ! ! ! DOT (that is .gov) GOVERNMENT is not freaking FREE ! ! ! It is paid for by our tax dollars yah freaking twits ! !

We ask for pertinent data, and we get "pretty pictures" instead? Give us the freaking size indicators in the images for a good change, or at least get the wording correct in what yah write.

sheeeeeeeeeesh this site would cause a 12th century scholar to turn over in the grave.

It is because of the very biased wikki crappola that it has become "fuzzy" in some peoples minds. Read the true Greek defination please. What a bunch of aaAAAACHOoooo, , , sorry.

by BMAONE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:26 pm

Do you think she'd get peaved and leave if APOD mirrored EPDO for 2 weeks???

by Andy Wade » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:38 pm

FieryIce wrote:I for one am fed up with … aaACHEW!... bull$#** and artistic eye candy, this is suppose to be Astronomy Picture of the Day not Earth Picture of the Day (EPOD). Messenger takes what, a 1000 pictures a day and we get ~3 images, now that’s anal-retentive. What the hell does the Trans Canada Highway have to do with Astronomy?!
Phew!!!
Take a valium please. Ask for your money back if you're not satisfied. Oh, you didn't pay anything? Shut up then. :twisted:

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