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by Nitpicker
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:28 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

I made a mistake in my previous post so I will assume that caused a miscommunication. I have changed the previous post saying TV news people are reporting is fact to instead say TV news people are reporting it as fact . If the current findings persist as being fact then it is a fantastic developmen...
by Nitpicker
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

So the image resolved the area around the black hole on a scale below that expected for its event horizon. But that means that the event horizon is smaller than expected? Otherwise we wouldn't be able to see anything there? I'm also thinking of the extreme gravity near a supergiant black hole, and ...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)
Replies: 26
Views: 9913

Re: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)

RickyM wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:59 pm The passage of the ISS at that date, time and location wasn't 7 minutes long
My checks indicate it was visible for about 7 minutes. On what do you base your assertion? For how long do you think it was visible?
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

Light that approaches a radius of about 2.5 or 2.6 times the radius of the event horizon, spirals inward and crosses the event horizon, never to be seen again. That's the explanation for the size of the shadow, as I understand it. Light that approaches a radius of about 1.5 times the radius of the ...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

With M87 being 12 degrees north of the celestial equator, I am not sure how the South Pole Telescope might have helped in this image. Certainly useful for Sgr A*, however, the data from which, I assume, is currently being analysed. I am now wondering how a resolution of 20 micro arc seconds was ach...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

With M87 being 12 degrees north of the celestial equator, I am not sure how the South Pole Telescope might have helped in this image. Certainly useful for Sgr A*, however, the data from which, I assume, is currently being analysed. I am now wondering how a resolution of 20 micro arc seconds was achi...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

The thing I don't hear anyone talking about is why they had to get a black hole from more than 50 million light-years. Why can't they get an image of the (or a) black hole in our galaxy? If astronomers are unable to get an image of a black hole in our galaxy then how can they be sure that the image...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

Nitpicker, not to bust bubbles but 'fake news' is an exploitation of the lowest common denominator. Try harder to rise above it, my friend. Martin, you have incorrectly attributed the words of "Confused" to me, by mangling the quote tags. It might be best to ease off on the condescension,...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

So - are we seeing the effect of a very massive object on a rotating ball of gas? We are not actually seeing the black hole or the event horizon? I would like to see a proper physics explanation of the meaning of the image. We are seeing the effect of the black hole on the hot accretion disc surrou...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

Iksarfighter wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:02 am OK this black thing isn't the event horizon of the BH, but what would be the size of the event horizon of this BH compared to this image please ?
Smaller than the shadow by a factor of 2.5.
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

The thing I don't hear anyone talking about is why they had to get a black hole from more than 50 million light-years. Why can't they get an image of the (or a) black hole in our galaxy? If astronomers are unable to get an image of a black hole in our galaxy then how can they be sure that the image...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

Heh, heh, 2.5 times smaller . :-) I agree that using "times" should be for multiplication, not as used there. A percent would be easy to understand, or even a fraction, if a whole number is the smaller measure (5 times smaller is easy to understand if written as 1/5th). My 1/50th of a dol...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

The ESO video called it “superheated gas and dust”. Are we seeing (the bright parts of) the accretion disk here? Does such a disk go all the way up to the event horizon? Why is “the shadow” of the black hole not the same as event horizon? According to the "EHT" link in the last sentence o...
by Nitpicker
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:36 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)
Replies: 128
Views: 47435

Re: APOD: First Horizon-Scale Image of a Black... (2019 Apr 11)

Thats awesome. But would it be being difficult to ask how it is that radio telescopes can 'see' or resolve such stuff, at the minute angles and immense distances that this is being observed at ? The angular resolution of a telescope array, in radians, is observed wavelength divided by baseline dist...
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:39 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)
Replies: 26
Views: 9913

Re: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)

high frame rate digital camera. A total of 2500 frames were recorded during the 7 minute long visible ISS passage 5.95 fps is not a high frame rate. The recording probably didn't cover the full 7 minutes. I would be surprised to learn these individual images were made with exposure times longer tha...
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)
Replies: 29
Views: 13200

Re: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)

Starship discussions are so wonderfully broad: grammarism, sizeism, timelapseism, ageism and goldfishism.

Re the timelapseism, it is possible that only a limited number of individual frames were recorded, so it was sped up to provide a smoother animation.
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)
Replies: 26
Views: 9913

Re: APOD: ISS from Wallasey (2019 Apr 06)

high frame rate digital camera. A total of 2500 frames were recorded during the 7 minute long visible ISS passage 5.95 fps is not a high frame rate. The recording probably didn't cover the full 7 minutes. I would be surprised to learn these individual images were made with exposure times longer tha...
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:44 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Moon Occults Saturn (2019 Apr 09)
Replies: 3
Views: 2151

Re: APOD: Moon Occults Saturn (2019 Apr 09)

I like the music in the "Moon moves in front" video link. It reminds me of the sound inside an MRI scanner, or perhaps a Berlin nightclub. Dark and full of panic ... perhaps reflective of the task of recording a fleeting occultation with multiple filters. :-)
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:24 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)
Replies: 29
Views: 13200

Re: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)

And never mind that Phobos actually has dimensions of 27×22×18 km ... its mean diameter of 22.5 km is 150 times smaller than Luna's. :)
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)
Replies: 29
Views: 13200

Re: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)

I suppose a scientific paper might be written as "Phobos, at 1.15x10^4 meters across, is 6.67x10^-3 times the diameter of Luna". Quite revolting. I'm glad the APOD captions aren't written like scientific papers.
by Nitpicker
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)
Replies: 29
Views: 13200

Re: APOD: Martian Moon Phobos Crosses the Sun (2019 Apr 10)

The phrase "150 times smaller than Luna" is not at all nonsensical. I suspect more people would have trouble understanding "1/150th the size of Luna". But I cannot say with any certainty whether either form is discouraged in any style guide. The phrase "50 times closer"...
by Nitpicker
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:20 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What did you see in the sky tonight?
Replies: 1303
Views: 1080495

Re: What did you see in the sky tonight?

And here is an improved version from the same 90 second video, created after a full night's sleep:
SSO_P6_Saturn_20190407_0358+10_x2_labelled.jpg
I think the colour balance is a little more accurate in this version, and it is slightly sharper, especially at the north pole.
by Nitpicker
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Messier 2 (2019 Apr 04)
Replies: 26
Views: 9864

Re: APOD: Messier 2 (2019 Apr 04)

They relate to the degree of ionization of the nebula, which in turn is dependent on the temperature of (or distance from) the ionizing source. Ann No, the narrow bands relate to the specific elements in the nebula, that are being ionised by photons from nearby stars. Each different ionised element...
by Nitpicker
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: Messier 2 (2019 Apr 04)
Replies: 26
Views: 9864

Re: APOD: Messier 2 (2019 Apr 04)

But, Ann, do the narrow bands of ionisation wavelengths relate to temperature in the same way as starlight? I think they rather relate to the elements being ionised. They relate to the degree of ionization of the nebula, which in turn is dependent on the temperature of (or distance from) the ionizi...