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by warmingwarmingwarming
Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:12 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

Warming, are you suggesting that the Earth or any other planets in this system were formed elsewhere, apart from the Sun? Just spitballing a question here, to see if it sticks. :( Bruce Very true that we have much more to learn, but we can see where the great bulk of planet formation is taking plac...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:05 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

And just to show that we are merely beginning to learn there is this from this forum: http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37314
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

"Undoubtedly" is a word that should be used sparingly, for instance, after solid proof, like when sipping a glass of water, "This water is undoubtedly wet." Theories on planetary formation do not fit that test. There is simply TOO MUCH to learn, to speculate on, to ponder, to ex...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:23 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

One need not be an eminent scientist to have an informed opinion about just what constitutes "science". My point stands. Most of the people in that list from more than a couple hundred years ago were not scientists in any modern sense of the word, did not operate like modern scientists, a...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

No, it doesn't. It merely recognizes that most early discoveries were isolated, accidental, and the product of individuals who bore no resemblance to modern scientists and who followed methodologies very unlike the modern scientific method. https://www.google.ca/search?q=famous+scientists&oq=fa...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

For you to say there was no science until a hundred years ago denies the discoveries of Aristarchus 2,000 years ago, Newton, and many, many other well known historical scientists. No, it doesn't. It merely recognizes that most early discoveries were isolated, accidental, and the product of individu...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

I totally disagree .. Aristarchus was denied for over well over a thousand years .. (and please don't blame religion, it was science doing the denying.) This is science denying itself. Theory held forth as fact is also science denying itself. I am comfortable with disagreeing. I hope you are too. N...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:08 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

There are always scientists who have problems with change. But it's not a problem that defines science. I totally disagree .. Aristarchus was denied for over well over a thousand years .. (and please don't blame religion, it was science doing the denying.) This is science denying itself. Theory hel...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:53 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

And we see people who have training in cosmology denying new breakthroughs in cosmology because they can't get beyond what they learned 20 or 30 years ago. There are always scientists who have problems with change. But it's not a problem that defines science. Science is about the methods being used...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:42 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

It would be good if more engineering programs worked this way. It's common at serious science schools like MIT and Caltech, but a great many colleges turn out engineers who have woefully inadequate training in science. This is quite apparent when we see how many engineers end up promoting various s...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:37 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

Undoubtedly is being used correctly here. We know beyond reasonable doubt that the planets around stars are formed locally around those stars, and we observe that process directly around other stars. From Harvard: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/01/06/cosmic-spitballs-released-fro...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

There are likely some odd and rare modes of planet formation from the debris of stellar destruction, but the main method is undoubtedly accretion of the leftovers from star birth, not death. This main pathway to planet formation, the one that can produce Earth-like planets orbiting normal stars is ...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:08 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

The line between scientific and technological breakthroughs is not always well defined. There is cross-over. A lot of people would consider the detection of gravitational waves to be in the former category, whereas I would consider it more in the latter. http://engsci.utoronto.ca/explore_our_progra...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

There are likely some odd and rare modes of planet formation from the debris of stellar destruction, but the main method is undoubtedly accretion of the leftovers from star birth, not death. This main pathway to planet formation, the one that can produce Earth-like planets orbiting normal stars is ...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

There are likely some odd and rare modes of planet formation from the debris of stellar destruction, but the main method is undoubtedly accretion of the leftovers from star birth, not death. This main pathway to planet formation, the one that can produce Earth-like planets orbiting normal stars is ...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

The line between scientific and technological breakthroughs is not always well defined. There is cross-over. A lot of people would consider the detection of gravitational waves to be in the former category, whereas I would consider it more in the latter. http://engsci.utoronto.ca/explore_our_progra...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:47 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/15808436/china-satellite-quantum-network-encryption-entanglement-micius It seems they aren't stuck in the realm of 'what we learned five years or fifty years ago or 100 years ago has to remain the way things are thought to be.' There are some Swedes involved in th...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/black-hole-spitballs-planets-galaxies-stars-space-science/ And Black Holes shooting out blobs that eventually turn into planets. There are likely some odd and rare modes of planet formation from the debris of stellar destruction, but the main method is und...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:19 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

Much of this is stuff that we learned 50 years ago. What do you think they're doing that anybody has claimed is impossible? All they're doing is extending the distance over which a well understood physical principle is applied. This is a technological advance, not a scientific one. So how come it's...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

Re: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/15808436/china-satellite-quantum-network-encryption-entanglement-micius It seems they aren't stuck in the realm of 'what we learned five years or fifty years ago or 100 years ago has to remain the way things are thought to be.' Much of this is stuff that we learne...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:36 pm
Forum: Open Space: Discuss Anything
Topic: China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."
Replies: 30
Views: 11564

China seems to say, "The impossible is possible."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/1580 ... ent-micius

It seems they aren't stuck in the realm of 'what we learned five years or fifty years ago or 100 years ago has to remain the way things are thought to be.'
by warmingwarmingwarming
Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: How do planets form?
Replies: 26
Views: 6239

Re: How do planets form?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017 ... e-science/

And Black Holes shooting out blobs that eventually turn into planets.
by warmingwarmingwarming
Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:32 pm
Forum: The Communications Center: Breaking Science News
Topic: ALMA Finds Ingredient of Life Around Infant Sun-like Stars
Replies: 9
Views: 1395

Re: ALMA Finds Deadly Poison Around Infant Sun-like Stars

Non-Iife does not have will, so it cannot try to do anything. Of course. But I have noticed several times that astronomers have been excited about finding a molecule that seems highly poisonous or generally disgusting to me. <<The Durand Express, a weekly newspaper in Durand, Michigan, reported in ...
by warmingwarmingwarming
Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:23 pm
Forum: The Bridge: Discuss an Astronomy Picture of the Day
Topic: APOD: An Unusual Hole in Mars (2017 Jun 12)
Replies: 24
Views: 8114

Re: APOD: An Unusual Hole in Mars (2017 Jun 12)

Baby's Back wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote: What kind of barbecue is required for cattle whose exploding dung creates 100 meter craters?!
Something like this? - https://imgur.com/I6wAZbh
I kin smell the savoury aroma drifting on the Martian air!