Covid-19

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[orin stepanek]

Bummer: Hospital called and Rehab has been postponed indefinitely because of spike in covid cases! Seems a shame[ the place is practically empty anyway! I am glad they are looking out for the wellbeing of those of us who go there! ! wish we could put the pandemic behind us already!

[neufer]

Bummer: Hospital called and Rehab has been postponed indefinitely because of spike in covid cases! Seems a shame[ the place is practically empty anyway! I am glad they are looking out for the wellbeing of those of us who go there! ! wish we could put the pandemic behind us already!

Haven't you HERD, Orin

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<<Atlas Shrugged is a 1957 novel by Ayn Rand. The title is a reference to Atlas, a Titan in Greek mythology, who is described in the novel as "the giant who holds the world on his shoulders". The significance of this reference appears in a conversation between the characters Francisco d'Anconia and Hank Rearden, in which d'Anconia asks Rearden what advice he would give Atlas upon seeing "the greater [the Titan's] effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders". With Rearden unable to answer, d'Anconia gives his own advice: "To shrug".

The book depicts a dystopian United States in which private businesses suffer under increasingly burdensome laws and regulations. Railroad executive Dagny Taggart and her lover, steel magnate Hank Rearden, struggle against "looters" who want to exploit their productivity. Dagny and Hank discover that a mysterious figure called John Galt is persuading other business leaders to abandon their companies and disappear as a strike of productive individuals against the looters.>>

[orin stepanek]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/the-dea ... he-us.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/health/u ... index.html

Who Knows?

[Fred the Cat]

History has a funny way to repeat. For our era, perhaps it will be recorded “Before Covid” then “After Donald”.

[BDanielMayfield]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/the-dea ... he-us.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/health/u ... index.html

Who Knows?

Dr. Fauci has factual, solid, historical data about exactly how diseases spread and the effects of this pandemic. So to your question Orin, I'd answer Fauci knows.

Thanks for sharing those news stories quoting his dire predictions re what would happen if people throw caution to the wind and just "Let it fly", hoping that herd immunity will quickly get us passed this mess. The death toll would be much more horrific than it already is.

[orin stepanek]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/the-dea ... he-us.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/health/u ... index.html

Who Knows?

Dr. Fauci has factual, solid, historical data about exactly how diseases spread and the effects of this pandemic. So to your question Orin, I'd answer Fauci knows.

Thanks for sharing those news stories quoting his dire predictions re what would happen if people throw caution to the wind and just "Let it fly", hoping that herd immunity will quickly get us passed this mess. The death toll would be much more horrific than it already is.

Thanks: wasn't a ? though; more or less just passing along of waiting for the herd

[Chris Peterson]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/the-dea ... he-us.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/health/u ... index.html

Who Knows?

Dr. Fauci has factual, solid, historical data about exactly how diseases spread and the effects of this pandemic. So to your question Orin, I'd answer Fauci knows.

Thanks for sharing those news stories quoting his dire predictions re what would happen if people throw caution to the wind and just "Let it fly", hoping that herd immunity will quickly get us passed this mess. The death toll would be much more horrific than it already is.

Thanks: wasn't a ? though; more or less just passing along of waiting for the herd :shock:

This disease does not appear to confer any lasting immunity on those who get it. So our hope for herd immunity hangs on the right kind of vaccine. Otherwise, we'd better develop effective treatments.

[orin stepanek]

Dr. Fauci has factual, solid, historical data about exactly how diseases spread and the effects of this pandemic. So to your question Orin, I'd answer Fauci knows.

Thanks for sharing those news stories quoting his dire predictions re what would happen if people throw caution to the wind and just "Let it fly", hoping that herd immunity will quickly get us passed this mess. The death toll would be much more horrific than it already is.

Thanks: wasn't a ? though; more or less just passing along of waiting for the herd

This disease does not appear to confer any lasting immunity on those who get it. So our hope for herd immunity hangs on the right kind of vaccine. Otherwise, we'd better develop effective treatments.

+1 I totally agree Chris!

[BDanielMayfield]

This disease does not appear to confer any lasting immunity on those who get it. So our hope for herd immunity hangs on the right kind of vaccine. Otherwise, we'd better develop effective treatments.

That's not at all reassuring. If catching this damn contagion doesn't even confer lasting immunity, wouldn't making "the right kind of vaccine", (one that works long term) be quite difficult?

[Chris Peterson]

This disease does not appear to confer any lasting immunity on those who get it. So our hope for herd immunity hangs on the right kind of vaccine. Otherwise, we'd better develop effective treatments.

That's not at all reassuring. If catching this damn contagion doesn't even confer lasting immunity, wouldn't making "the right kind of vaccine", (one that works long term) be quite difficult?

Most viruses, and especially coronaviruses, don't confer long lasting immunity. The ones that do are the exceptions. But that doesn't mean vaccines can't, because there are a variety of components of our immune system that can be involved, as well as our ability in vaccines to use techniques that enhance immune response, or tailor the antigenic component. And, of course, there's also the possibility that it will require updates every year or two, like with influenza (although hopefully not because of new mutations).

So the prospects for a vaccine are quite bit better than for natural immunity.

[BDanielMayfield]

This disease does not appear to confer any lasting immunity on those who get it. So our hope for herd immunity hangs on the right kind of vaccine. Otherwise, we'd better develop effective treatments.

That's not at all reassuring. If catching this damn contagion doesn't even confer lasting immunity, wouldn't making "the right kind of vaccine", (one that works long term) be quite difficult?

Most viruses, and especially coronaviruses, don't confer long lasting immunity. The ones that do are the exceptions. But that doesn't mean vaccines can't, because there are a variety of components of our immune system that can be involved, as well as our ability in vaccines to use techniques that enhance immune response, or tailor the antigenic component. And, of course, there's also the possibility that it will require updates every year or two, like with influenza (although hopefully not because of new mutations).

So the prospects for a vaccine are quite bit better than for natural immunity.

Thanks. That’s much more hopeful.

[KayBur]

That's not at all reassuring. If catching this damn contagion doesn't even confer lasting immunity, wouldn't making "the right kind of vaccine", (one that works long term) be quite difficult?

Most viruses, and especially coronaviruses, don't confer long lasting immunity. The ones that do are the exceptions. But that doesn't mean vaccines can't, because there are a variety of components of our immune system that can be involved, as well as our ability in vaccines to use techniques that enhance immune response, or tailor the antigenic component. And, of course, there's also the possibility that it will require updates every year or two, like with influenza (although hopefully not because of new mutations).

So the prospects for a vaccine are quite bit better than for natural immunity.

Thanks. That’s much more hopeful.

Only there is this difficulty: those vaccines that are almost ready for mass production require special storage conditions. And many countries will not be able to create these conditions in order to maximize the coverage of the population. Of course, we may think that our question will be solved exactly. But the virus walks around the world and there is no guarantee that if some country will not be the source of the mutated virus due to the fact that it was unable to provide vaccination of the population. There are still enough not so developed and prosperous countries in the world that they pose a threat to everyone else.

[Chris Peterson]

Most viruses, and especially coronaviruses, don't confer long lasting immunity. The ones that do are the exceptions. But that doesn't mean vaccines can't, because there are a variety of components of our immune system that can be involved, as well as our ability in vaccines to use techniques that enhance immune response, or tailor the antigenic component. And, of course, there's also the possibility that it will require updates every year or two, like with influenza (although hopefully not because of new mutations).

So the prospects for a vaccine are quite bit better than for natural immunity.

Thanks. That’s much more hopeful.

Only there is this difficulty: those vaccines that are almost ready for mass production require special storage conditions. And many countries will not be able to create these conditions in order to maximize the coverage of the population. Of course, we may think that our question will be solved exactly. But the virus walks around the world and there is no guarantee that if some country will not be the source of the mutated virus due to the fact that it was unable to provide vaccination of the population. There are still enough not so developed and prosperous countries in the world that they pose a threat to everyone else.

Yes, it's a challenge outside of developed countries (and even within them). All the same, things are looking up.

[orin stepanek]

I went to the Dr. the Dr. said; get your self a Covid Test! Yeah It was negative! Had other tests> don't know results but more testing in two weeks! I hate it!