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Re: Weather!

Post by Beyond » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:42 am

Just a little bit more light rain to go and Hurricane Earl poops out to the East. Well, i did get a free truck wash and NOT a washed away truck :!: :D
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:01 pm

Earl decided he was being too predictable so he changed track overnight. He also picked up steam a little over the unusually warm waters so he's still a hurricane, though only category 1 and that will turn back into a tropical storm once most of the storm is over land.

The eye is just now coming ashore only about 75 km south-west of here, so the wind and rain are much higher than expected here in Halifax and Dartmouth. There are some power outages and some trees down in the city, including a large one on Robie Street, a main thoroughfare.

I've had a few house-shaking blasts, but nothing too serious, and no trees down nearby. And my power, obviously, is still on -- for now. I'm well supplied: yesterday I picked up a few batteries, a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. What more do you need? :mrgreen:

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:06 pm

rstevenson wrote:
I've had a few house-shaking blasts, but nothing too serious, and no trees down nearby. And my power, obviously, is still on -- for now. I'm well supplied: yesterday I picked up a few batteries, a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. What more do you need? :mrgreen:
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:08 pm

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I've had a few house-shaking blasts, but nothing too serious, and no trees down nearby. And my power, obviously, is still on -- for now. I'm well supplied: yesterday I picked up a few batteries, a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. What more do you need? :mrgreen:
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Re: Weather!

Post by owlice » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:08 pm

lol!

It's beautiful here. I heard the wind last night, and thought I was hearing rain, too, but I stepped outside and the clouds were only in the eastern sky; the sky above me was perfectly clear.

This morning, I felt fall in the air. It's not quite cool enough to say it's fall, but it's coming, it's coming. I have the windows and patio door open; a cardinal is chattering outside the front window, and the wind is blowing through the house.

The day calls; ciao for now!
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:00 pm

Earl has passed over most of Nova Scotia and is diminishing as it goes. Still lots of rain and wind in store for PEI and points north east, but for us it's clean up time.

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Post by neufer » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:46 pm

rstevenson wrote:
Earl has passed over most of Nova Scotia and is diminishing as it goes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Alexander,_1st_Earl_of_Stirling wrote:
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<< The 1st Earl of Stirling, William Alexander (c. 1570, Menstrie, Clackmannanshire – 12 September 1640), was a Scotsman who was an early developer of Scottish colonisation of Port Royal, Nova Scotia and Long Island, New York. He attained reputation as a poet and writer of rhymed tragedies, and assisted the James I of England in preparing the metrical version known as "The Psalms of King David, translated by King James."

In 1621 King James I granted him a royal charter appointing him governor of a vast territory in North America which was erected into a lordship and barony of Nova Scotia (New Scotland); the area now known as Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and part of the northern United States. The creation of Baronets of Nova Scotia was used to settle the plantation of the new province.

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Lord Stirling briefly established a Scottish settlement at Port Royal, Nova Scotia, led by his son William Alexander (the younger). However the effort cost him most of his fortune, and when the region—now Canada's three Maritime Provinces and the state of Maine-- was returned to France in 1632, it was lost. However Alexander's settlement provided the basis for British claims to Nova Scotia and his baronets provided the Coat of arms of Nova Scotia and Flag of Nova Scotia which are still in use today.>>
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:45 am

Well, that was interesting. As I said before, it all seemed to be over. About 2:30 this afternoon, having experienced no great personal inconvenience from the mighty Earl, I went out to play pool, as is my wont on Saturday afternoons. About 5:00 pm I returned to a house without power, indeed most of a city without power (except where I was playing pool, and a few other spots.) So I drove around various parts of the city to see what was happening and discovered my little corner of it was the only corner not seriously inconvenienced. There were trees down and large branches scattered everywhere; traffic signals not working in most areas; and various emergency vehicles rolling hither and yon at great speed, flashing their lights vigorously to warn the idiots out driving around (er, um, including me) to get the hell out of their way. So I came back home and sat around frumped out. Darkness is boring. It's Saturday night. I predict a baby boom in 9 months. Then the power came back on just now. I'm connected! I'm alive!

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Re: Weather!

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rstevenson wrote:Well, that was interesting. As I said before, it all seemed to be over. About 2:30 this afternoon, having experienced no great personal inconvenience from the mighty Earl, I went out to play pool, as is my wont on Saturday afternoons. About 5:00 pm I returned to a house without power, indeed most of a city without power (except where I was playing pool, and a few other spots.) So I drove around various parts of the city to see what was happening and discovered my little corner of it was the only corner not seriously inconvenienced. There were trees down and large branches scattered everywhere; traffic signals not working in most areas; and various emergency vehicles rolling hither and yon at great speed, flashing their lights vigorously to warn the idiots out driving around (er, um, including me) to get the hell out of their way. So I came back home and sat around frumped out. Darkness is boring. It's Saturday night. I predict a baby boom in 9 months. Then the power came back on just now. I'm connected! I'm alive!
Darkness. And no Moon. Dammit, man! Don't waste this opportunity. Go out and see some stars!
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Re: Weather!

Post by owlice » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:17 am

It's not fun coming home to no power, is it?! Rob, I'm glad you've rejoined the connected, though I like Chris's suggestion a lot!!

Last night when I saw that the sky was unexpectedly clear (read: while I was feeding mosquitoes), I wondered where my binoculars were. I kept the big ones under the passenger seat of my Honda for years, but since totaling it earlier this summer, I'd cleared everything out of that car and... didn't know what I'd done with the binoculars.

Today with the windows open, the door to the room I was in kept getting blown shut from the wind. So I picked up something nearby to prop in front of the door to keep it open... oh, look! My big binoculars! :roll: At least now I know where they are.
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:20 am

Chris Peterson wrote:Darkness. And no Moon. Dammit, man! Don't waste this opportunity. Go out and see some stars!
I was going to mention that, but forgot. Viewing here is often poor, what with city lights and ocean haze, so as soon as it got dark I headed out to the deck to have a look. Near the zenith I could indeed see more than usual, though not a great deal more. But there was still so much haze in the air from the storm that those few parts of the city with power were wiping out the view from a good part of the sky. I've given up; this is not a good place from which to view the night sky. I've friends about an hour and a half away -- Earl's center rolled right over them today -- who ordinarily have a spectacular night sky. I may go for a late night visit this week, now that the moon is being coy.

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Re: Weather!

Post by Beyond » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:17 am

owlice wrote:It's not fun coming home to no power, is it?! Rob, I'm glad you've rejoined the connected, though I like Chris's suggestion a lot!!

Last night when I saw that the sky was unexpectedly clear (read: while I was feeding mosquitoes), I wondered where my binoculars were. I kept the big ones under the passenger seat of my Honda for years, but since totaling it earlier this summer, I'd cleared everything out of that car and... didn't know what I'd done with the binoculars.

Today with the windows open, the door to the room I was in kept getting blown shut from the wind. So I picked up something nearby to prop in front of the door to keep it open... oh, look! My big binoculars! :roll: At least now I know where they are.
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Re: Weather!

Post by Ann » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:15 am

Chris wrote:
Darkness. And no Moon. Dammit, man! Don't waste this opportunity. Go out and see some stars!
Wasn't it Walter Baade or someone who availed himself of the mandatory lights out at night policy during WWII to observe the sky under brilliant conditions and make some observational breakthroughs?

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Baade idea?

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Ann wrote:
Chris wrote:
Darkness. And no Moon. Dammit, man! Don't waste this opportunity. Go out and see some stars!
Wasn't it Walter Baade or someone who availed himself of the mandatory lights out at night policy during WWII to observe the sky under brilliant conditions and make some observational breakthroughs?
No only does this seem to be a dangerous option but searchlights & flack would seem to defeat the whole purpose.

Perhaps you are thinking about this:
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/01/post_911_jet_condensation_trai.html wrote:
Post 9/11 Jet Condensation Trail Study called into Question
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<<A Canadian physicist says that he has found no evidence to support a U.S. finding that jet condensation trails act like clouds, cooling the earth during the day and keeping it warmer at night. Jet condensation trails have been widely quoted as a prime example of short-term human impact on climate, according to the Toronto Star article.

A 2002 study by U.S. researchers had concluded that the temperature spread between day and night over the lower 48 states increased by 1.5C over long-term averages between Sept. 11 and 14 in 2001, when commercial air flights were mostly grounded over North America. Canadian flights were completely grounded for 48 hours following the attacks.

Professor William Van Wijngaarden looked at Canadian temperature records for the contrail-free days immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks of 2001 and was unable to find any significant changes in the diurnal temperature range (span between daytime highs and nighttime lows) which ended up falling well within the long-term average from 1977 to 2005.

The York University researcher said he decided to double-check the U.S. findings because the claimed temperature rise was so large, almost equal to the global average temperature increase from greenhouse warming, according to the Star. But when he examined the spread between day and night temperatures from 112 weather stations across Canada for Sept. 8 to 17 in 2001, there wasn't a spike during the no-fly period.

The lead researcher on the original U.S. study told the Star that the negative results from Canada don't necessarily undermine his group's findings. "It's possible that Canada simply doesn't have a high enough density of jet traffic for contrails to make any difference," said David Travis, a geography professor at the University of Wisconsin in Whitewater.>>
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Re: Weather!

Post by Ann » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:23 pm

Wikipedia says this about Walter Baade:
He took advantage of wartime blackout conditions during World War II, which reduced light pollution at Mount Wilson Observatory, to resolve stars in the center of the Andromeda galaxy for the first time, which led him to define distinct "populations" for stars (Population I and Population II). The same observations led him to discover that there are two types of Cepheid variable stars. This discovery led him to recalculate the size of the known universe, doubling the previous calculation made by Hubble in 1929. He announced this finding to considerable astonishment at the 1952 meeting of the International Astronomical Union in Rome.
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Re: Weather!

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Ann wrote:
Wikipedia says this about Walter Baade:
He took advantage of wartime blackout conditions during World War II, which reduced light pollution at Mount Wilson Observatory, to resolve stars in the center of the Andromeda galaxy for the first time, which led him to define distinct "populations" for stars (Population I and Population II). The same observations led him to discover that there are two types of Cepheid variable stars. This discovery led him to recalculate the size of the known universe, doubling the previous calculation made by Hubble in 1929. He announced this finding to considerable astonishment at the 1952 meeting of the International Astronomical Union in Rome.
So it was a Baade idea after all.
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Darkness. And no Moon. Dammit, man! Don't waste this opportunity. Go out and see some stars!
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Wars are no big deal. I could even make a case that they are healthy for our civilization. Humans are well adapted to them, and they rarely result in civilizations collapsing. They usually spur innovation and boost economies. They kill people, but people are cheap and easily replaced (sorry, that's hard but true). They cause physical damage, but the repairs are usually good for the economy. Wars often boost net political stability.
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Re: Weather!

Post by bystander » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:30 pm

Looks like Hermine is going to dump a lot of water on us. Expecting rain starting this evening through Thursday afternoon.

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bystander wrote:
Looks like Hermine is going to dump a lot of water on us.
Expecting rain starting this evening through Thursday afternoon.
http://www.newsok.com/heavy-rain-likely ... le/3492588
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:01 am

bystander wrote:Looks like Hermine is going to dump a lot of water on us.
Do you live south of Tulsa?

http://trmm.gsfc.nasa.gov/trmm_rain/Eve ... ermine.jpg
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Re: Weather!

Post by bystander » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:15 am

neufer wrote:Do you live south of Tulsa?
Oklahoma City, we really didn't get much rain. We got more rain last week in 30 min, than Hermine dumped on us in OKC.

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Post by mak© » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:54 am

not exactly related, but I didnt feel like posting in its own thread:
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Post by geckzilla » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:58 am

Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:01 am

geckzilla wrote:
Here's a roll cloud for you, Art.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ouses.html
Nice one, thanks Judy.

I now know where these things come from:
http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... nt#p132207
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Re: Weather!

Post by Ann » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:23 am

What spiral galaxy is Igor? He looks quite a bit like M 101, although a bit more regular.

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