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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:53 pm

Right now here in St. Anthony Idaho it is -16F, which is a new personal low. :brr:
Last year (our first winter up here) the lowest it ever got was -5.

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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:01 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:53 pm
Right now here in St. Anthony Idaho it is -16F, which is a new personal low. :brr:
Last year (our first winter up here) the lowest it ever got was -5.
Yup, there's a slug of cold air sitting across the west. We hit -7°F this morning, although it's up to 4° now, which was the high for yesterday. Even with the extreme cold, we still got about three inches of snow yesterday, which is nice. Should start warming up by tomorrow.
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:55 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:01 pm
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:53 pm

Right now here in St. Anthony Idaho it is -16F, which is a new personal low. :brr:
Last year (our first winter up here) the lowest it ever got was -5.
Yup, there's a slug of cold air sitting across the west. We hit -7°F this morning, although it's up to 4° now, which was the high for yesterday. Even with the extreme cold, we still got about three inches of snow yesterday, which is nice. Should start warming up by tomorrow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Low wrote:
<<The Aleutian Low is a semi-permanent low-pressure system located near the Aleutian Islands in the Bering Sea during the Northern Hemisphere winter. It is a climatic feature centered near the Aleutian Islands measured based on mean sea-level pressure. It is one of the largest atmospheric circulation patterns in Northern Hemisphere and represents one of the "main centers of action in atmospheric circulation."

The Aleutian Low is characterized by heavily influencing the path and strength of cyclones. Extratropical cyclones which form in the sub-polar latitudes in the North Pacific typically slow down and reach maximum intensity in the area of the Aleutian Low. Tropical cyclones that form in the tropical and equatorial regions of the Pacific can veer northward and get caught in the Aleutian Low. This is usually seen in the later summer seasons. Both the November 2011 Bering Sea cyclone and the November 2014 Bering Sea cyclone were post-tropical cyclones that had dissipated and restrengthened when the systems entered the Aleutian Low region. The storms are remembered and marked as two of the strongest storms to impact the Bering Sea and Aleutian Islands with pressure dropping below 950 mb in each system. The magnitude of the low pressure creates an extreme atmospheric disturbance, which can cause other significant shifts in weather.

The low serves as an atmospheric driver for low-pressure systems, post-tropical cyclones and their remnants and can generate strong storms that impact Alaska and Canada. Intensity of the low is strongest in the winter and almost completely dissipates in the summer. The circulation pattern is measured based on averages of synoptic features help mark the locations of cyclones and their paths over a given time period. However, there is significant variability in these measurements. The circulation pattern shifts during the Northern Hemisphere summer when the North Pacific High takes over and breaks apart the Aleutian Low. This high-pressure circulation pattern strongly influences tropical cyclone paths. The presence of the Eurasian and North American continents prevent a continuous belt of low pressure from developing in the Northern Hemisphere sub-polar latitudes, which would mirror the circumpolar belt of low pressure and frequent storms in the Southern Ocean. However, the presence of the continents disrupts this motion, and the subpolar belt of low pressure is well developed only in the North Pacific (the Aleutian Low) and the North Atlantic (the Icelandic Low, which is located between Greenland and Iceland).
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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:53 pm

Nice that we don't have "Roaring Forties" type weather up here in the north.
The presence of the Eurasian and North American continents prevent a continuous belt of low pressure from developing in the Northern Hemisphere sub-polar latitudes, which would mirror the circumpolar belt of low pressure and frequent storms in the Southern Ocean. However, the presence of the continents disrupts this motion, and the subpolar belt of low pressure is well developed only in the North Pacific (the Aleutian Low) and the North Atlantic (the Icelandic Low, which is located between Greenland and Iceland).
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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:38 pm

neufer wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:55 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:01 pm
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:53 pm

Right now here in St. Anthony Idaho it is -16F, which is a new personal low. :brr:
Last year (our first winter up here) the lowest it ever got was -5.
Yup, there's a slug of cold air sitting across the west. We hit -7°F this morning, although it's up to 4° now, which was the high for yesterday. Even with the extreme cold, we still got about three inches of snow yesterday, which is nice. Should start warming up by tomorrow.
  • Blame a Grand Aleutian Low:
What do you mean blame? You mean credit!
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:47 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:53 pm

Nice that we don't have "Roaring Forties" type weather up here in the north.
The presence of the Eurasian and North American continents prevent a continuous belt of low pressure from developing in the Northern Hemisphere sub-polar latitudes, which would mirror the circumpolar belt of low pressure and frequent storms in the Southern Ocean. However, the presence of the continents disrupts this motion, and the subpolar belt of low pressure is well developed only in the North Pacific (the Aleutian Low) and the North Atlantic (the Icelandic Low, which is located between Greenland and Iceland).
As the Arctic Ocean warms/melts the jet stream will have even
larger and more stable meanders resulting in extended periods of:
  • 1. Drought
    2. Precipitation
    3. Cold spells and
    4. Warm spells
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Re: Weather!

Post by bystander » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:58 pm

The arctic cold moved into Oklahoma last night. It's the coldest we've been so far this Winter. We're expecting snow tomorrow night and Thursday.
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:22 pm

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bystander wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:58 pm

The arctic cold moved into Oklahoma last night. It's the coldest we've been so far this Winter. We're expecting snow tomorrow night and Thursday.
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Re: Weather!

Post by Fred the Cat » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:00 pm

What a difference a couple of months make. Back in early November this stump was reflecting fall.
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We decided to strap on the cross-country skis yesterday and the same stump was wearing winter.
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Both times Bojo loved the trip.
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Re: Weather!

Post by rstevenson » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 pm

Bojo looks a little like a wolverine in that view, Fred. But he appears to be a lot friendlier.

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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:19 pm

rstevenson wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 pm
Bojo looks a little like a wolverine in that view, Fred. But he appears to be a lot friendlier.

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I thought the same thing Rob. But wolverines don't wear booties. :lol2:
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:59 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:19 pm
rstevenson wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 pm

Bojo looks a little like a wolverine in that view, Fred. But he appears to be a lot friendlier.
I thought the same thing Rob. But wolverines don't wear booties. :lol2:
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Re: Weather!

Post by Fred the Cat » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:02 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:19 pm
rstevenson wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 pm
Bojo looks a little like a wolverine in that view, Fred. But he appears to be a lot friendlier.

Rob
I thought the same thing Rob. But wolverines don't wear booties. :lol2:
If he came face-to-face with a wolverine...
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the wolverine would laugh too. :lol2:
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:03 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Riggleman wrote:
<<In the 2018 elections, Republican Denver Lee Riggleman III defeated Democratic nominee Leslie Cockburn, receiving 53% of the vote to Cockburn's 47%. During the campaign, Cockburn accused Riggleman of being a "devotee of Bigfoot erotica", based on an image he shared from his Instagram to promote a book titled The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him. In an interview with CRTV Riggleman stated that the image was an obvious joke, but that he had an interest in Bigfoot, and co-authored the actual self-published book Bigfoot Exterminators, Inc.: The Partially Cautionary, Mostly True Tale of Monster Hunt 2006, with ESPN writer Don Barone. In a phone interview with The Washington Post, he clarified that it was an "anthropological book sort of based on parody and satire" and said "I thought it was funny. There is no way that anybody's dumb enough to think this is real." Before stating that he did not want to alienate "Bigfoot voters," he said that he does "not believe that Bigfoot is real.">>
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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:05 am

Crazy cold!

A friend and I headed out for a day of snowshoeing in the high country, up above 11,000 feet. Forecast was for temps in the mid 30s, perfect for a good workout. Left the house at 8am and the temperature was 22°F and rising, nice and sunny. But we had to cross a high altitude valley called South Park (yes, that South Park) a half hour north of the house. The temperature there plummeted to -24° F (-31°C)! Never driven in such cold conditions (still completely sunny). The fuel line froze. I was able to nurse the car along at about 40 mph, barely running, until we got out of the valley. Over 10 minutes the temperature went back up into the 20s, and the car recovered. Another half hour, at the trail head, it was above freezing and stayed that way all day. Coming back at 4pm it dropped to 0°F across South Park, but was above freezing going in and coming out. Never experienced anything so extreme before. A 60°F temperature shift over less than 10 miles, no more than 1000 feet in elevation change, and no more than a half hour. Wow.

But a beautiful day in the mountains!
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Post by neufer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:58 pm


Chris Peterson wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:05 am

Crazy cold!

A friend and I headed out for a day of snowshoeing in the high country, up above 11,000 feet. Forecast was for temps in the mid 30s, perfect for a good workout. Left the house at 8am and the temperature was 22°F and rising, nice and sunny. But we had to cross a high altitude valley called South Park (yes, that South Park) a half hour north of the house. The temperature there plummeted to -24° F (-31°C)! Never driven in such cold conditions (still completely sunny). The fuel line froze. I was able to nurse the car along at about 40 mph, barely running, until we got out of the valley. Over 10 minutes the temperature went back up into the 20s, and the car recovered. Another half hour, at the trail head, it was above freezing and stayed that way all day. Coming back at 4pm it dropped to 0°F across South Park, but was above freezing going in and coming out. Never experienced anything so extreme before. A 60°F temperature shift over less than 10 miles, no more than 1000 feet in elevation change, and no more than a half hour. Wow.
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Re: Weather!

Post by Fred the Cat » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:05 pm

Colorado has some odd weather but a extreme temperature inversion at high elevation is downright perplexing. :shock:

Getting stuck in such weather because of fuel or mechanical problems makes planning essential. It sounds like your day in South Park was memorable. :thumb_up:
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