saturno2 wrote:Let¨s take.
I understand by natural food, wich is grown with organic fertilizer and no pesticides.
The industrial food has been grown with chemical fertilizers and pesticides.
In the natural food the most important is the quality, in the industrial the amount.
Some said the food is the medicine of the body.
I would say the natural food is the beeter medicine for the body.
Natural food is longevity
Natural food is life, beeter life
Chris Peterson wrote:There is no evidence that natural food (as in "organic") is any healthier than other food, or that it leads to longer life.
Chris Peterson wrote:Neither is there any evidence that pesticide or herbicide residues in food cause any harm. Most are, after all, analogs of chemicals that occur naturally in many of our vegetables.
rstevenson wrote:Chris Peterson wrote:There is no evidence that natural food (as in "organic") is any healthier than other food, or that it leads to longer life.
I mostly agree, but I do think it's important to maintain a diet which is as similar as possible to the sorts of foods we evolved eating. That is, to not over-manufacture our foods, and to not change the balance of our diets too much, especially if that change moves us towards excess fat and sugars. Organic, in all its aspects, is a way to maintain that focus.
rstevenson wrote:Chris Peterson wrote:Neither is there any evidence that pesticide or herbicide residues in food cause any harm. Most are, after all, analogs of chemicals that occur naturally in many of our vegetables.
Now that's a stretch! Yes, they are analogs of naturally occurring substances, but they are effective in our industrial agriculture because they are used in massive amounts, vastly greater than any naturally occurring amounts. And in such massive amounts, they radically change the balance of the local flora and fauna -- which is, of course, the whole purpose of using them. And I think any claim that their residues cause no harm is not supportable -- but neither is any claim that they do. We're simply experimenting on ourselves and the results are not yet in.
geckzilla wrote:Doum, don't you think that we now live longer because we have effective ways to prevent and treat what used to be deadly? Antibiotics, vaccines, and various treatments have taken us a long way. Chemicals and biological engineering of food have merely allowed us to more efficiently produce massively larger amounts of food in the same area. Actually, since we have ways of making it so cheap, it's lead to a huge increase some extremely unhealthy lifestyles leading to morbid obesity, diabetes, and various whole organ system failures which happen after one's body can no longer handle it. Modern medicine allows people who could have easily died to that cheap food habit to continue living well into old age.
Doum wrote:In 1900 AD , human life expectancy was around 40 to 50 years old ( Read that somewhere.). Then agricultural evolve. We start using chemical to facilate growth of food and to preserve it fresh much longer. We use antibiotique on animal so they dont have parasite.
And sudenly! Human life expectancy grow and is now around 80 to 90 years old. Thats is wonderfull. :)
So i am not sure i want to go back to natural food. :mrgreen:
Having a 80 to 100 years life expectancy is more appealing. 8-) :oops:
Chris Peterson wrote:What changed after 1900 had little to do with food, and a lot to do with just two things: improved hygiene and antibiotics.
owlice wrote:Chris Peterson wrote:What changed after 1900 had little to do with food, and a lot to do with just two things: improved hygiene and antibiotics.
And vaccines (and even with a vaccine, measles is still one of the leading causes of death of children under 5 -- 15 deaths every hour).
rstevenson wrote:A sensible culture would design food for maximum nutrition and flavour, and let the chips ( :lol2: ) fall where they may. Our inabaility to do such a simple thing well is only one small symptom of a species-wide insanity. On a good day, I can imagine we'll muddle through somehow. This isn't a good day.
geckzilla wrote:Just as long as no one ever tries to take away my chocolate...
Chris Peterson wrote:geckzilla wrote:Just as long as no one ever tries to take away my chocolate...
Well, this month chocolate increases longevity. Stop following the health news and you should do fine.
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