Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

See new, spectacular, or mysterious sky images.

Please vote for up to THREE images; thank you!

Poll ended at Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:06 pm

Omega Centauri
12
4%
Milky Way Sky
33
10%
M42: The Orion Nebula
19
6%
Wolf Moon and the Parthenon
76
23%
Near IR Image of the Outflow from a Massive YSO in IRAS 17527-2439
12
4%
Madison Skyline and Moon
10
3%
M77 in Cetus
17
5%
Sunspot at 10 o'clock
5
2%
NGC 2170: Fireworks!
28
8%
The Antennae Galaxies in Oil
1
0%
NGC 2070: Tarantula Nebula in Hubble Palette
1
0%
North Celestial Pole, Polaris and Surrounding Galactic Cirrus
15
5%
Iridescence near Sunset from the Top of the World Highway, Yukon Territory
102
31%
 
Total votes: 331

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Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by owlice » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:06 pm

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Omega Centauri
http://martinsastro.net/displayimage.ph ... play_media
Copyright: Martin Meupelenberg First seen here
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Milky Way Sky
http://www.bretwebsterimages.com/
Copyright: Bret Webster First seen here
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M42: The Orion Nebula
Copyright: Eran Zgayer First seen here
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Wolf Moon and the Parthenon
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scene ... non-09.htm
Copyright: : Anthony Ayiomamitis First seen here
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Near IR Image of the Outflow from a Massive YSO in IRAS 17527-2439
http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/~watsonv/APO ... K_2p5a.jpg
Copyright: Watson P. Varricatt, Joint Astronomy Centre, Hawaii First seen here
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Madison Skyline and Moon
http://webpages.charter.net/darksky25/
Copyright: John Rummel First seen here
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M77 in Cetus
http://home.comcast.net/~brucepipes/site/
Copyright: Bruce Pipes First seen here
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Sunspot at 10 o'clock
Copyright: Peter Pick First seen here
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NGC 2170: Fireworks!
http://www.caelumobservatory.com/gallery/n2170.shtml
Adam Block/Mount Lemmon SkyCenter/University of Arizona First seen here
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The Antennae Galaxies in Oil
http://thecosmosgallery.com/mypaintings ... -galaxies/
Copyright: Dacio Rivera
Image
First seen here
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NGC 2070: Tarantula Nebula in Hubble Palette
http://www.astromgs.com.ar/fotos/ngc207 ... 12010.html
Copyright: Marcelo Salemme First seen here
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North Celestial Pole, Polaris and Surrounding Galactic Cirrus
http://deepskycolors.com/astro/2010/11/ ... NCP_3k.jpg
Copyright: Rogelio Bernal Andreo
Click to view full size image 1 or image 2
First seen here
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Iridescence near Sunset from the Top of the World Highway, Yukon Territory
Copyright and credit: Charles Stankievech and Sophie Springer First seen here
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Re: Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by Bret Webster » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:16 pm

I really enjoy Anthony's Parthenon shot. Seems like a lot of thoughtful pre-positioning and preparation went into it! I've always loved the Parthenon anyway. Thanks Anthony!

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Re: Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by bystander » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:28 pm

Bret Webster wrote:I really enjoy Anthony's Parthenon shot.
Where's the iconic :tree: ?
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Re: Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by Ayiomamitis » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:15 pm

Bret Webster wrote:I really enjoy Anthony's Parthenon shot. Seems like a lot of thoughtful pre-positioning and preparation went into it! I've always loved the Parthenon anyway. Thanks Anthony!
Bret,

Thanks for the kind words!

You are indeed correct with regards to the advance planning, for such a hit requires proper azimuth, altitude, distance and time of day to be possible as a single exposure.

The time of day is the most critical since an attempt too early and the immediate environment dominates the exposure, thus leading to an underexposed moon. An attempt too late and the rising full moon dominates the proper exposure and the foreground is underexposed and too dim. It took me fifteen months back in 2004-2005 to reverse engineer the proper time of day which provides balanced lighting between foreground (ex. archaeological grounds) and background (rising full moon).

More specifically, we need the Sun to be between four and six degrees below the horizon when the full moon is rising and which leads to a perfect but delicate balance in lighting between foreground and background. Furthermore, this balance lasts for approximately two to three minutes.

Once we have this factor out of the way, the next aspect involving such an attempt is the proper distance since we would like a balance in the apparent diameter of the foreground (ex. the Parthenon) and the rising full moon. The latter varies between apogee and perigee - see http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scene ... e-2010.htm - but we can use 30 arc-minutes as a general rule of thumb. Since we would also like a similar apparent diameter for the foreground (ex. the Parthenon), we use basic trigonometry to determine the (shooting) distance which will yield the Parthenon as a 30 arc-minute object in our field of view based on its physical size.

Now that we have the proper (shooting) distance, all that is left is to identify a location with our desired distance and which matches the azimuth of the rising full moon and for this location to also provide a clear view of our target (ex. the Parthenon). Once this has been identified, the final variable in the analysis is the altitude of our target and which generally is around two degrees.

Combine all of the above factors simultaneously and you have the proper conditions for a SINGLE exposure involving the rising full moon and your foreground of interest.

I have many examples involving such "conjunctions" on my website at http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Landscape.htm . It is a real adrenaline rush planning such projects as well as seeing them materialize through the camera's viewfinder.

I should mention that the desired shooting distances can easily range between 2000 and 6000 meters and which means we have absolutely NO room for error. If we are in error by, for example, 15 arc-minutes (half the width of the full moon), the amount of distance to be covered laterally in order to correct for this deviation is so great (from 2000-6000 meter distances) that one does NOT have sufficient time to run with the equipment, reset, recenter the field of view, refocus and start shooting since the moon will have been rising while you (or I) have been running a few hundred meters to correct the error in our shooting position.

Anyway, you now have some insights as to what is required into the execution of such photos and which I pursue every month with the rising full moon .... weather permitting as always!

Anthony.
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Re: Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by Ayiomamitis » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:18 pm

bystander wrote:
Bret Webster wrote:I really enjoy Anthony's Parthenon shot.
Where's the iconic :tree: ?
Do you mean the one at http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scenes-Sounion-01.htm and/or http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scenes-Sounion-04.htm and/or http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scenes-Sounion-08.htm and/or http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Solar-Scenes-Sounion-03.htm ? :mrgreen:

One would have to drive 60-90 minutes south of the Parthenon and to the archaeological grounds at Sounion. :lol:

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Re: Poll: Recent Submissions #25 -- A Long Time Coming

Post by geckzilla » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:51 pm

Anthony, if the :tree: is ever removed, you'll have to inform us. Many of us are quite attached to it and would mourn its passing as any human. I think bystander panicked when he saw the construction and lack of tree and thought maybe the worst had happened without realizing it was a different site.
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