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NS: Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed

Post by bystander » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:56 pm

Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed
New Scientist - 2101 Feb 16
Star Trek fans, prepare to be disappointed. Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew would die within a second of the USS Enterprise approaching the speed of light.

The problem lies with Einstein's special theory of relativity. It transforms the thin wisp of hydrogen gas that permeates interstellar space into an intense radiation beam that would kill humans within seconds and destroy the spacecraft's electronic instruments.

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Post by BMAONE23 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:03 pm

Isn't this why the ship was given a Main Deflector Array?
Voyagers deflector http://www.starfleetmodeler.com/Starshi ... ger_04.jpg

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Post by emc » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:40 pm

Sobering. On the bright side... reckon this drastically lowers the potential for space alien invasion.

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Re: NS: Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed

Post by neufer » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:42 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:Isn't this why the ship was given a Main Deflector Array?
Voyagers deflector http://www.starfleetmodeler.com/Starshi ... ger_04.jpg
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If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts (la la la),
Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show,
I should really just relax."
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Post by emc » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:48 pm

Do you think that Einstein can be wrong about a universal speed limit?

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Post by neufer » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:07 pm

emc wrote:Do you think that Einstein can be wrong about a universal speed limit?
I don't think his theory necessarily rules out the possibility of Tachyons.
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Post by emc » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:17 pm

Interesting… tachyons are predicted in bosonic string theory… my wife likes me to use that on my salad. Spos’d to be healthy and all.

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Measuring the speed of light

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Re: NS: Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed

Post by emc » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:34 pm

What I have learned so far from this thread…

1. Star Trek is likely not an accurate scientific representation of reality due to relativity

2. we worry needlessly about hostile invading aliens from distant galaxies

3. there are lots of space adventure programs that are not an accurate scientific representation of reality (due to relativity)

4. no one wants to argue with Einstein

5. tachyons move faster than light but can’t be proven or disproven since they cannot be seen or measured (smells fishy to me, but what do I know… never mind)

6. if you’re mad at your boyfriend, you can nuke his Valentine chocolates and have a fun physics experiment all at the same time