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Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini image

Post by RJN » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:09 pm

http://www.news.com.au/technology/consp ... a-cover-up

NASA caught Photoshopping an image of Saturn's moons. What were they trying to hide?
A conspiracy theorist noticed that an image in NASA's Astronomy Picture Of The Day had noticeable Photoshop brushstrokes in it, when you turned up the contrast. Is there a mysterious object hiding near Saturn's moons?

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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

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APOD: 2010 April 20 - Saturn's Moons Dione and Titan from Cassini

I'm part of the conspiracy, apparently
Planetary Society | Emily Lakdawalla |08 Oct 2010
http://planetary.org/blog/article/00002710/
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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

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RJN wrote:http://www.news.com.au/technology/consp ... a-cover-up

NASA caught Photoshopping an image of Saturn's moons. What were they trying to hide?
A conspiracy theorist noticed that an image in NASA's Astronomy Picture Of The Day had noticeable Photoshop brushstrokes in it, when you turned up the contrast. Is there a mysterious object hiding near Saturn's moons?
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Post by JeanTate » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:06 pm

Thanks.

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Post by neufer » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:19 pm

RJN wrote:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/consp ... 5936084529

NASA caught Photo-shopping an image of Saturn's moons. What were they trying to hide?
http://www.simonsingh.net/Devilish_Short_Story.html wrote:
    • _The Devil and Simon Flagg_ by Arthur Porges
    <<"Sign," urged the devil, and squaring his shoulders, Simon did so.

    When his own signature had been added with a flourish, the devil rubbed his palms together, gave Simon a frankly proprietary glance, and said jovially: "Let's have the question. As soon as I answer it, we'll hurry off. I've just time for another client tonight."

    "All right," said Simon. He took a deep breath. "My question is this: Is Fermat's Last Theorem correct?"
    ....

    "You win, Simon," [the devil] said, almost in a whisper, eyeing him with ungrudging respect. "Not even I can learn enough mathematics in such a short time for so difficult a problem. The more I got into it, the worse it became. Non-unique factoring, ideals-Baa!! Do you know," he confided, "not even the best mathematicians on other planets-all far ahead of yours-have solved it? Why, there's a chap on Saturn-he looks something like a mushroom on stilts-who solves partial differential equations mentally; and even he's given up." The devil sighed. "Farewell." He dislimned with a kind of weary precision.>>
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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

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The devil sighed. "Farewell." He dislimned with a kind of weary precision.>>
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And thanks for telling me what I should say to stump the Devil! Hey, not that I believe in Old Nick any more than I believe in Saint Nick, but you can never be too prepared. Someone should have told Ingmar Bergman. He should have told his knight to ask Death about Fermat's last theorem, not play chess with him!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvRFJFU ... re=related[/youtube]

Who are you?

I am Death.

Have you come for me?

I have long walked by your side.

I know.

Are you prepared?

My body is scared, not I.

....

Wait a moment!

That is what you all say. But I grant no reprieves.

You play chess, don't you?

How do you know?

I've seen it in paintings and heard it in songs.

Yes, I am indeed a quite accomplished chess player.

You can't be more accomplished than I.

Why do you want to play chess with me?

That is my concern.

You are right.

These are my terms. You will let me live as long as you can't defeat me. If I take your king, you will let me go.

....

You got the black pieces.

It is best that way, isn't it?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ah, Ingmar Bergman! You should have told our knight to make Death solve Fermat's last theorem, not try to defeat him at chess. What was that? Your knight played chess against Death, not against the Devil? Ach, Devil, Death, one big D or another...

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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

Post by Chris Peterson » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:42 pm

Ann wrote:Ah, Ingmar Bergman! You should have told our knight to make Death solve Fermat's last theorem, not try to defeat him at chess. What was that? Your knight played chess against Death, not against the Devil? Ach, Devil, Death, one big D or another...
There's seems to be a little problem with a 14th century knight being aware of an idea not thought up until the 17th century. And if we're going to allow time travel, the big D could have just popped up to the 20th century for the answer.

From an artistic standpoint, "You're an expert on Diophantine equations and algebraic number theory, aren't you?" just doesn't have the ring of "You play chess, don't you?"
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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

Post by neufer » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:04 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Ann wrote:
Ah, Ingmar Bergman! You should have told our knight to make Death solve Fermat's last theorem, not try to defeat him at chess.
What was that? Your knight played chess against Death, not against the Devil? Ach, Devil, Death, one big D or another...
There's seems to be a little problem with a 14th century knight being aware of an idea not thought up until the 17th century.
And if we're going to allow time travel, the big D could have just popped up to the 20th century for the answer.

From an artistic standpoint, "You're an expert on Diophantine equations and algebraic number theory, aren't you?"
just doesn't have the ring of "You play chess, don't you?"
From both an artistic & contemporary standpoint one could always ask the Devil to solve the Archimedes Cattle problem:
http://math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Cattle/Statement.html wrote:
  • ....................................................
    "If thou Art diligent and WISE, O stranger, compute the number of cattle of the Sun,
    who once upon a time grazed on the fields of the Thrinacian isle of Sicily...
    "

    ....................................................
    "Since it has been calculated that it would take the work of a thousand men for a thousand years
    to determine the complete number [of cattle], it is obvious that the world will never have a complete solution.
    "

    Pre-computer-age thinking from a letter to The New York Times (January 18, 1931)
    ....................................................
http://math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes ... tion1.html
http://math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes ... tion2.html
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/43.106.2 wrote:
Knight, Death, and the Devil, 1513–14
Albrecht Dürer (German, 1471–1528)
Engraving 24.4 x 19.1 cm

<<Dürer's Knight, Death, and the Devil is one of three large prints of 1513–14 known as his Meisterstiche (master engravings). The other two are Melancholia I and Saint Jerome in His Study. Though not a trilogy in the strict sense, the prints are closely interrelated and complementary, corresponding to the three kinds of virtue in medieval scholasticism—theological, intellectual, and moral. Called simply the Reuter (Rider) by Dürer, Knight, Death, and the Devil embodies the state of moral virtue. The artist may have based his depiction of the "Christian Knight" on an address from Erasmus's Instructions for the Christian Soldier, published in 1504: "In order that you may not be deterred from the path of virtue because it seems rough and dreary … and because you must constantly fight three unfair enemies—the flesh, the devil, and the world—this third rule shall be proposed to you: all of those spooks and phantoms which come upon you as if you were in the very gorges of Hades must be deemed for naught after the example of Virgil's AeneasLook not behind thee."

Riding steadfastly through a dark Nordic gorge
, Dürer's knight rides past Death on a Pale Horse, who holds out an hourglass as a reminder of life's brevity, and is followed closely behind by a pig-snouted Devil. As the embodiment of moral virtue, the rider—modeled on the tradition of heroic equestrian portraits with which Dürer was familiar from Italy—is undistracted and true to his mission. A haunting expression of the vita activa, or active life, the print is a testament to the way in which Dürer's thought and technique coalesced brilliantly in the "master engravings.">>
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Re: Io9: Conspiracy theorist: NASA Photoshopped Cassini imag

Post by bystander » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:34 pm

Conspiracy Debunked: NASA Photoshops Images for Good Reason
Space.com | 15 Oct 2010
Conspiracy theorists are abuzz over the revelation that a recent NASA photo was touched up before being released to the public.

But this is not news, or evidence that the space agency has something to hide. NASA routinely processes raw images to enhance details, or to visualize things the human eye could never see, agency officials have said. Other space agencies, and many astronomers, do the same thing.

Such editing lets scientists and the public gain a better understanding of the structure of celestial objects — and a better appreciation of their beauty.

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APOD: Saturns Moons Dione and Titan from... (2010 Apr 20)

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bystander wrote:I'm part of the conspiracy, apparently
Planetary Society | Emily Lakdawalla | 08 Oct 2010
http://planetary.org/blog/article/00002710/
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http://news.discovery.com/space/nasa-co ... ssing.html

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