MarkBour wrote: chuckster wrote:
MarkBour wrote: . . .
Regardless of what documents the "charitable" 1% have signed, the effort in space should suffer no egotistical fools. The car is being portrayed as a playful, astonishing and admirable feat by a young etrepreneur making his high-profile mark in his chosen field. Advertising efforts are ALWAYS "very well-planned and beautifully executed". But they're still just advertising. As an American watching the privatization of prisons and governments, and a veteran of 10,000 commercials, I know a 1%'er hiking a hind leg to mark their territory when I see it. So should you.
Their opportunity is to make a profit in space-based operations, which I support. Making space profitable does not need the support of people impressed by rank stunts. If it does, they're trying to get favorable votes when the laws start being passed, and those votes will be for the same wrong reasons America is suffering from right now. If Neil Armstrong had planted Old Glory on the Moon with a JP Morgan Chase logo on it, that would be OK with you ? We came in peace for all mankind. We should economize space travel and mine asteroids and go to Mars for all mankind, also. Not some businessman's ego.
On the way out of Earth's atmosphere, check your advertising at the door, please.
Peace, brother! Although I personally don't feel the same, you're welcome to be as suspicious of Musk's motives as you wish.
As to some of the deeper points you are making, I wholeheartedly support them. You ended your post with: "On the way out of Earth's atmosphere, check your advertising at the door, please." I would also wish we could leave our symbols of national pride out of space as well. It seems the most productive place for this discussion would be the United Nations. As you quoted, "We came in peace for all mankind". That seems the best sentiment, to me.
Peace to you also, brother. Here we are on the APOD discussion board ! I'm not some contrary hothead dimbulb (at least I like to think not), and as far as this sportscar stunt, I actually think I'm in the minority, and the inevitable is coming. I visit other forums, and Musk is pretty much universally the darling of people around his age, and others. The commercialization of space is a good idea, in theory, just like Capitalism. But you know how that goes. I also agree with your "symbols of national pride" caveat, which seems to be a hangover from the Cold War moon landings. We all know why the Fed money flowed for that effort, and national pride is what seemed the most natural reaction at the time. But if we're opening up space, we should take the ISS as the new example of how to go forward, ideologically. We want to be proud of HUMAN efforts in space.
I've spent so many lunch hours and home hours reading APODs and following the links, where APOD brings the wonder -and reverence- for the discovery and application of astrophysical law to observations, that the Tesla with a mannequin seemed to be sacrilege in a cathedral to me. The caption to the photo was basically neutral, which I appreciated. Thanks for your measured reply !