APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby Chris Peterson » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:40 pm

Davefragoso wrote:I found in http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100131.html this links, but the link for Yale's University libary is broken.
Can you send me the New Link???

Google is your friend. Just go to the library's main page, select the Medieval & Renaissance Manuscripts Catalog from the menu, and then for the Call Number use "ms 408". The entire scanned manuscript is available.

That procedure will get you here.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby Indigo_Sunrise » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:40 pm

After reading this article, maybe there is hope that the Voynich manuscript will be 'cracked' soon....



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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby donnweinberg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:01 am

If it's a language, is it Georgian (Caucacus-region Georgia)? I believe that Georgian has a unique alphabet, not well recognized by most folks.

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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby rupifragum1 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:49 am

This is a "Fertility Codex" wrote by an Alquimist in 1433 . The book has four parts. firstable, describes the medical plants that believe has some aphrodisiatic propertys, secondly, the astronomy part where shows the dates that are more most porpice for the fertility and pregnancy will be possible. Thirdly, it´s show how to use the medical mixes in a different types of bath and how it influence in the body. An last one, it´s a medical receiptary where it shows the storage bottles of the mixes and it gives you instructions how to mix the plants and the proportion of them to mix.
Because the book it´s property of an alquimist and he was very gelous about his work; he encode the book in an doble encrypte languge. He mix latin and his originally language.

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rupifragum1 wrote:
This is a "Fertility Codex" wrote by an Alquimist [sic] in 1433 . The book has four parts. firstable [sic], describes the medical plants that believe has some aphrodisiatic propertys [sic], secondly, the astronomy part where shows the dates that are more most porpice [sic] for the fertility and pregnancy will be possible. Thirdly, it´s show how to use the medical mixes in a different types of bath and how it influence in the body. An last one, it´s a medical receiptary [sic] where it shows the storage bottles of the mixes and it gives you instructions how to mix the plants and the proportion of them to mix. Because the book it´s property of an alquimist [sic] and he was very gelous [sic] about his work; he encode the book in an doble encrypte languge [sic]. He mix latin and his originally language.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby owlice » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:47 pm

Art, that's unbecoming of you.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby Beyond » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:45 pm

owlice wrote:Art, that's unbecoming of you.

Actually, owlice, it may be becoming of him. After all, he is inscrutable, even to himself... most of the time. So he himself may not even know what he means by what he does. For all we know, he may have just liked what what said and is just quoting it, to see if anyone comments that he quoted it, with out saying anything himself. That's neufer :!: Sort of, anyway. :mrgreen:
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby Chris Peterson » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:07 pm

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owlice wrote:Art, that's unbecoming of you.

Actually, owlice, it may be becoming of him. After all, he is inscrutable, even to himself... most of the time. So he himself may not even know what he means by what he does. For all we know, he may have just liked what what said and is just quoting it, to see if anyone comments that he quoted it, with out saying anything himself. That's neufer :!: Sort of, anyway. :mrgreen:

I thought he was just testing the new "[sic]" key he had installed on his keyboard...
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby neufer » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:10 pm

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owlice wrote:
Art, that's unbecoming of you.

Yeah...but it's typical of me.

So tell us about Paree.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby geckzilla » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:04 pm

Good old Voynich thread. I used to get annoyed each time this thread was dug up but now it's like an old undead friend.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby Beyond » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:52 pm

geckzilla wrote:Good old Voynich thread. I used to get annoyed each time this thread was dug up but now it's like an old undead friend.

It's almost like the Voynich Manuscript is rather inscrutable, isn't it :?: It just sort of annoys you.... and grows on you.... until you kinda like it.... sort of. :mrgreen:
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby owlice » Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:57 am

neufer wrote:So tell us about Paree.

Ah, a song from your youth; thanks for sharing!! :D

I lost my head over Paris.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby neufer » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:33 am

owlice wrote:
Ah, a song from your youth; thanks for sharing!! :D

I lost my head over Paris.

LISTEN: I may be older than the head but I'm younger than the song :!:
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby owlice » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:51 am

I'm listening.... but all I hear is my tinnitus and a train way off in the distance... !
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby neufer » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:45 am

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owlice wrote:
I'm listening.... but all I hear is my tinnitus
and a train way off in the distance... !


    Ah, a song from my youth. :arrow:
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby owlice » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:52 am

neufer wrote:
    Ah, a song from my youth.

Ah, a song in my range; thanks!
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby neufer » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:40 pm

owlice wrote:
neufer wrote:
Ah, a song from my youth.

Ah, a song in my range; thanks!

"How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm" was out of your range :?:
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby owlice » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:46 pm

neufer wrote:"How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm" was out of your range :?:

No, but it was definitely out of my era!
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Is it cracked? The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 3

Postby BMAONE23 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:38 pm

Has the mystery finally been cracked or only the person claiming to have done so
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/02/prophet-god-claims-solved-mystery-voynich-manuscript/
Latvala provided the following translation of plant 16152, which he said can be found today in Ethiopia:

"The name of the flower is Heart of Fire.
It makes the skin beautiful when made as an ointment.
The oil is pressed from the buds.
This ointment is used for the wrinkles.
Is suitable for the kidneys and the head,
as the flower prevents inflammations, is antibiotic.
Plant is 10 centimeters by its height.
It grows on hot and dry slants.
The plant is bright green by its color."


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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby geckzilla » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:24 pm

Yes, but only through God can he translate it, and he can't explain it to anyone how he does it so therefore one cannot verify it... a likely story. Mystery remains.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby scocrista » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:52 pm

I have a theory about the meaning of the star and its rays of light which may help to decode the strange language.

My background: I'm a twenty-two year old programmer, writer, musician, and philosopher. I'm attending college in Oklahoma to get my Bachelor's degree in Computer Science.

I'm no expert of Astronomy, but I appreciate cryptography of all sorts.

My proposition: The star is a decryption key.

If you count the blue and red and white rays, there are twelve of each. I think these tell the reader the position of the Earth around the sun (the months of the year). If you look further out past the rays there are nine columns of two stars and three columns of single stars. Between these columns are the names of months, with the thirteenth column being the word for the new year. Those three single stars might be where the new year begins (before or after), and from that reference point, you could decode the names of the months written in the strange language. This is just my speculation after a few minutes of analysis, but it seems to be correct. I don't have the knowledge required to decode this language, but there are probably clues in the style of writing, the origin of the document (where it may have came from), et cetera.

If you feel like collaborating with me, you can message me: scott.c.stauffer@gmail.com

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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby pdigilio1 » Sat May 11, 2013 8:45 pm

there are twelve spikes around what looks like the sun. there is also what looks like the moon around the sun. if that is so, then the twelve spikes represent the twelve lunar zodiac signs (and 12 months in a year). And maybe because there is two colors within each spike, (2 times 12 is 24), that makes up the 24 hours in a day. there is also a third section in each spike. so all three sections in each spike make 36. Also in the third section there is a group of stars. so:

"The Decans (pron.: /ˈdɛkənz/) (Egyptian bakiu) are 36 groups of stars (small constellations) which rise consecutively on the horizon throughout each earth rotation. The rising of each decan marked the beginning of a new decanal "hour" (Greek hōra) of the night for the ancient Egyptians, and they were used as a sidereal star clock beginning by at least the 9th or 10th Dynasty (ca 2100 BCE.)"

-( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decans)
which means this could be in some Ancient Greek or Egyptian dialect.

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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby BMAONE23 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:02 pm

Not trying to resurrect an old thread but

This just in
From New Scientist
New Scientist wrote:A mysterious and beautiful 15th-century text that some researchers have recently deemed to be gibberish may not be a hoax after all. A new study suggests the text shares quantifiable features with genuine language, and so may contain a coded message.

That verdict emerges from a statistical technique that puts a figure on the information content of elements in a text or code, even if their meaning is unknown. The technique could also be used to determine whether there is meaning in genomes, possible messages from aliens or even the signals between neurons in the brain.


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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby neufer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:47 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:
This just in From New Scientist
New Scientist wrote:
A mysterious and beautiful 15th-century text that some researchers have recently deemed to be gibberish may not be a hoax after all. A new study suggests the text shares quantifiable features with genuine language, and so may contain a coded message.

That verdict emerges from a statistical technique that puts a figure on the information content of elements in a text or code, even if their meaning is unknown. The technique could also be used to determine whether there is meaning in genomes, possible messages from aliens or even the signals between neurons in the brain.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)

Postby geckzilla » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:58 pm

:-|

The technique could also be used to determine whether there is meaning in genomes, possible messages from aliens or even the signals between neurons in the brain.


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