APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12)

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APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12)

Post by APOD Robot » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:07 am

Image Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over Thailand

Explanation: Can the night sky appear both serene and surreal? Perhaps classifiable as serene in the above panoramic image taken last Friday are the faint lights of small towns glowing across a dark foreground landscape of Doi Inthanon National Park in Thailand, as well as the numerous stars glowing across a dark background starscape. Also visible are the planet Venus and a band of zodiacal light on the image left. Unusual events are also captured, however. First, the central band of our Milky Way Galaxy, while usually a common site, appears here to hover surreally above the ground. Next, a fortuitous streak of a meteor was captured on the image right. Perhaps the most unusual component is the bright spot just to the left of the meteor. That spot is the plume of a rising Ariane 5 rocket, launched a few minutes before from Kourou, French Guiana. How lucky was the astrophotographer to capture the rocket launch in his image? Pretty lucky -- the image was not timed to capture the rocket. What was lucky was how photogenic -- and perhaps surreal -- the rest of the sky turned out to be.

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Post by Liam-O » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:16 am

Ariane? You can't convince me that's not a comet. French Guiana is 12,000 miles from Thailand.

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Post by Beyond » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:22 am

The surreal link, while a bit of a 'stretch', is a familiar one. :yes:
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by geckzilla » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:24 am

Rockets sometimes create plumes (and some strange clouds) like this. It does look rather comet-like but if it were a comet then it would be a known one and would be simple to look up which one it is. Not to mention the tail is pointing backwards if it were a comet. I'm going with rocket.
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by Pon » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:10 am

Liam-O wrote:Ariane? You can't convince me that's not a comet. French Guiana is 12,000 miles from Thailand.
It really does look like a comet, especially with naked eyes. However, a comet wouldn't have streaked this fast in the span of few minutes:
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Nor would it look like this up close:
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Yes, it is quite far from the launch site, but I guess that just goes to show how fast rocket travels. Also, this particular one appears to be the ESC-A upper stage after it has vent out the remaining fuel.
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Post by Boomer12k » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:46 am

I don't find it Surreal...I find it AWESOME!!!

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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by Joules » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:14 pm

Typical low earth orbit is 90 minutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Earth_orbit#Examples, and unless that rocket is travelling east to west, Thailand is two thirds of an orbit away.
Sixty minutes is too long for Ariane's primary burn, so perhaps what we are seeing is gas from a secondary burn meant to inject payload into a higher orbit. That cloud should be visible from earth, like the sodium cloud released by Luna 1 back in 1959: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_1#Sod ... experiment

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Post by orin stepanek » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:32 pm

Nice APOD; i Like! 8-)
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Post by neufer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:40 pm

Joules wrote:
Sixty minutes is too long for Ariane's primary burn, so perhaps what we are seeing is gas from a secondary burn meant to inject payload into a higher orbit. That cloud should be visible from earth, like the sodium cloud released by Luna 1 back in 1959: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_1#Sod ... experiment
Reflections of light off the tiny beads on the Scotchlite™ screen
which is being used in the front screen projection process :?:
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(P.S., I'm not saying that man never made it to Thailand.)
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Post by RJN » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:54 pm

The APOD text has been updated to reflect that the astrophotographer was indeed lucky to catch the rocket plume as he did not know it would be there in advance. Since so few images contain rocket plumes, I mistakenly assumed that such an image feature was planned. Thanks to Pon for straightening me out on this one! - RJN

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Post by starsurfer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:44 pm

APOD Robot wrote:How lucky was the astrophotographer to capture the rocket launch in his image?
Click to play embedded YouTube video.

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Post by neufer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:03 pm

Click to play embedded YouTube video.
http://www.universetoday.com/109099/heavy-lift-rocket-launch-seen-from-space/ wrote:
<<The 250th launch performed by Arianespace lifted off from ESA’s spaceport in French Guiana, delivering a dual-satellite payload into geostationary transfer orbit: ABS-2 for global satellite operator ABS, and Athena-Fidus for the defense/homeland security needs of France and Italy. The flight lasted just over 32 minutes.>>
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by neufer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:05 pm

http://www.universetoday.com/109099/heavy-lift-rocket-launch-seen-from-space/ wrote: Heavy-Lift Rocket Launch Seen from Space
by Jason Major on February 6, 2014

<<We all know what a big rocket launch looks like from the ground, but this is what it looks like from above the ground — 260 miles above the ground! The photo above was captured from the Space Station earlier today by NASA astronaut Rick Mastracchio, and it shows the contrail from a heavy-lift Ariane 5 that had just launched from ESA’s spaceport on the French Guiana coast: flight VA217, Arianespace’s milestone 250th launch carrying the ABS-2 and Athena-Fidus satellites into orbit.

Rick shared his view on Twitter with his nearly 39,000 followers, and now less than an hour later, we’re sharing it here. (Isn’t technology wonderful?)

The ISS was in the process of passing over Costa Rica when the image was taken. The rocket launched from Kourou, French Guiana — about 2,175 miles (3,500 km) away. What a view!>>
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by Anthony Barreiro » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:29 pm

Pon wrote:
Liam-O wrote:Ariane? You can't convince me that's not a comet. French Guiana is 12,000 miles from Thailand.
It really does look like a comet, especially with naked eyes. However, a comet wouldn't have streaked this fast in the span of few minutes:
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This is the opposite of the problem that Charles Messier experienced when he needed to distinguish comets from nebulae (or nebulas :ssmile: ).
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Post by Ron-Astro Pharmacist » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:31 pm

What an awesome photo that shows so many features of the night sky. You can see the plane of our galaxy and our solar system to help pinpoint your place in our universe. 8-)
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Post by FYALCIN » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:24 pm

Hi,

Is it possible to get very high resolution format of these images for colour printing on A2 format?

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Post by starsurfer » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:50 am

FYALCIN wrote:Hi,

Is it possible to get very high resolution format of these images for colour printing on A2 format?

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Maybe if you email the person that took the image?

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Post by DavidLeodis » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:48 pm

On clicking the "above panoramic image" link I found that I need to be a Facebook member to view whatever the link would have brought up. It is wrong that in order to view an APOD link that I need to be a member of such as Facebook. I trust this is not the start of becoming a common requirement to view links in APODs.

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Post by Keyman » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:46 pm

Anthony Barreiro wrote:This is the opposite of the problem that Charles Messier experienced when he needed to distinguish comets from nebulae (or nebulas :ssmile: ).
Now I'm going to be giggling every time there's a Messier object on an APOD, after reading this snip from your link:
King Louis XV gave Messier the nickname "Comet Ferret."

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Post by Keyman » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:53 pm

DavidLeodis wrote:On clicking the "above panoramic image" link I found that I need to be a Facebook member to view whatever the link would have brought up. It is wrong that in order to view an APOD link that I need to be a member of such as Facebook. I trust this is not the start of becoming a common requirement to view links in APODs.
While I commend you for not being subsumed by the Zuckermonster, if the actual owner of the referenced work chooses to place it somewhere with other restrictions, it's hardly the fault of the fine people here.

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Post by Chris Peterson » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:57 pm

DavidLeodis wrote:On clicking the "above panoramic image" link I found that I need to be a Facebook member to view whatever the link would have brought up. It is wrong that in order to view an APOD link that I need to be a member of such as Facebook. I trust this is not the start of becoming a common requirement to view links in APODs.
Well, APODs try to offer links to the original source provided by the author. If that's a Facebook page, that's what it is.

But I agree, every effort should be taken to avoid links to Facebook or other subscription sites. Fortunately, I haven't seen any indication that explanatory links are headed in that direction.
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by geckzilla » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:16 pm

The Facebook post was posted with public permissions. Supposedly everyone should be able to see it but that's not the case. Either way, it's just the image itself with a few comments in Thai which have automatic translations which are fairly unintelligible. Bing's translation of Pon's original caption is, amusingly, "Tears will flow, share his crush."
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Re: APOD: Rocket, Meteor, and Milky Way over... (2014 Feb 12

Post by Beyond » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Well, i do like Orange Crush, but Thailand is a long way to go to share a soda. :yes:
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