APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:33 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:Tis most unfortunate that we will have to wait another 124 years to be able to send another probe and image the other side of these worlds when the south polar region is in full sun
Sunlight is not a requirement for our studying that region.
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by neufer » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:08 pm

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Tis most unfortunate that we will have to wait another 124 years to be able to send another probe and image the other side of these worlds when the south polar region is in full sun
Especially considering that if Voyager 1 had paid less attention to Titan it could have mapped the other side of these worlds back in the 1986.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1 wrote:
<<The trajectory chosen for Voyager 1 was designed around the optimum Titan flyby, which took it below the south pole of Saturn and out of the plane of the ecliptic, ending its planetary science mission. Had Voyager 1 failed or been unable to observe Titan, Voyager 2's trajectory would have been altered to incorporate the Titan flyby, precluding any visit to Uranus and Neptune. The trajectory Voyager 1 was launched into would not have allowed it to continue on to Uranus and Neptune, but could have been altered to avoid a Titan flyby and travel from Saturn to Pluto, arriving in 1986.>>
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by BMAONE23 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:45 pm

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BMAONE23 wrote:Tis most unfortunate that we will have to wait another 124 years to be able to send another probe and image the other side of these worlds when the south polar region is in full sun
Sunlight is not a requirement for our studying that region.
To study...no. But to image in full sun as specified...yes

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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:01 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
BMAONE23 wrote:Tis most unfortunate that we will have to wait another 124 years to be able to send another probe and image the other side of these worlds when the south polar region is in full sun
Sunlight is not a requirement for our studying that region.
To study...no. But to image in full sun as specified...yes
Sure. But since there's absolutely no need to image it in the Sun, and in fact, we're capable of making better images that appear sunlit without using the Sun, I wouldn't characterize the situation a "unfortunate".
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by neufer » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:52 pm

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BMAONE23 wrote:
Tis most unfortunate that we will have to wait another 124 years to be able to send another probe and image the other side of these worlds when the south polar region is in full sun
...there's absolutely no need to image it in the Sun, and in fact, we're capable of making better images that appear sunlit without using the Sun, I wouldn't characterize the situation a "unfortunate".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_incognita wrote: <<Terra incognita or terra ignota (Latin "unknown land"; incognita is stressed on its second syllable in Latin, but with variation in pronunciation in English) is a term used in cartography for regions that have not been mapped or documented. The expression is believed to be first seen in Ptolemy's Geography circa AD 150. The term was reintroduced in the fifteenth century from the rediscovery of Ptolemy’s work during the Age of Discovery. The equivalent on French maps would be terres inconnues (plural form), and some English maps may show Parts Unknown. During the 19th century terra incognita disappeared from maps of the earth, since both the coastlines and the inner parts of the continents had been fully explored. But many other land surfaces in the solar system remain mostly un-mapped. :arrow:

An urban legend claims that cartographers labelled such regions with "Here be dragons". Although cartographers did claim that fantastic beasts existed in remote corners of the world and depicted such as decoration on their maps, only one known surviving map, the (ca. 1510) Lenox Globe, in the collection of the New York Public Library, actually says "Here be dragons" (using the Latin form "HIC SVNT DRACONES"). :arrow:

However, ancient Roman and Medieval cartographers did use the phrase HIC SVNT LEONES (Here are lions) when denoting unknown territories on maps.>>
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by ta152h0 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:29 am

well, NASA is building a new super duper rocket and send it off in the direction of Saggitarius and vote for smart senators who we can send off o congress
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by Ann » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:54 am

Lovely Lenox Globe, Art. I actually found the HICSYNT DRACONES on the map, south of "India" at far right.
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But there will be no dragons on either Charon nor Pluto, not even dragons with antifreeze in their veins.

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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by neufer » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:59 pm

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Ann wrote:
Lovely Lenox Globe, Art. I actually found the HICSYNT DRACONES on the map, south of "India" at far right.

But there will be no dragons on either Charon nor Pluto, not even dragons with antifreeze in their veins.
Voyager 1 might have seen reluctant dragons in the bottom Hemispheres :arrow:

(Lenox did a fairly decent job with Sweden but Norway is "way off in left field.")
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by Durango » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:52 pm

"That makes it the largest satellite relative to its planet in the solar system." - apparently you (APOD) forget, that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.

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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

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Durango wrote:"That makes it the largest satellite relative to its planet in the solar system." - apparently you (APOD) forget, that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.
But it is. Because "planet" has multiple meanings, and the phrase "relative to its planet" is still perfectly reasonable whether or not you are considering the IAU definition or not (which is, of course, one of the problems with the IAU definition).
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Animals on Charon

Post by neufer » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:49 pm

  • 1) an elephant
    2) a resting cat
    3) Mickey Mouse
    4) ...
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Re: Animals on Charon

Post by Beyond » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:57 pm

neufer wrote:
  • 1) an elephant
    2) a resting cat
    3) Mickey Mouse
    4) ...
I like #4.
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Re: APOD: Charon: Moon of Pluto (2015 Oct 02)

Post by ta152h0 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:58 pm

manta ray ?
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Re: Animals on Charon

Post by BMAONE23 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:19 pm

Beyond wrote:
neufer wrote:
  • 1) an elephant
    2) a resting cat
    3) Mickey Mouse
    4) ...
I like #4.

There is also a "#4" on Pluto, preceding the Whale
Of course it could be a Number 6 too

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Re: Animals on Charon

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BMAONE23 wrote:
Beyond wrote:
neufer wrote:
  • 1) an elephant
    2) a resting cat
    3) Mickey Mouse
    4) ...
I like #4.

There is also a "#4" on Pluto, preceding the Whale
Of course it could be a Number 6 too
I'd have to see morse of it to be able to tell.
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Here there be robots

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