APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

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APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by APOD Robot » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:07 am

Image An Extreme Black Hole Outburst

Explanation: Astronomers believe they have now found the most powerful example of a black hole outburst yet seen in our Universe. The composite, false-color featured image is of a cluster of galaxies in the constellation of Ophiuchus, the serpent-bearer. The composite includes X-ray images (from the Chandra X-ray Observatory and XMM-Newton) in purple, and a radio image (from India's Giant Metrewave Radio Telescope) in blue (along with an infrared image of the galaxies and stars in the field in white for good measure). The dashed line marks the border of a cavity blown out by the supermassive black hole which lurks at the center of the galaxy marked by the cross. Radio emission fills this cavity. This big blowout is believed to be due to the black hole eating too much and experiencing a transient bout of "black hole nausea", which resulted in the ejection of a powerful radio jet blasting into intergalactic space. The amount of energy needed to blow this cavity is equivalent to about 10 billion supernova explosions.

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Post by bystander » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:45 am

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by wolfie138 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 am

if the blast come from the "+", why is the edge of the cavity concave to it?

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Post by starsurfer » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:50 am

Isn't Ophiuchus a "secret" member of the zodiac?

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Post by orin stepanek » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:47 pm

Kinda way above my head! I thought nothing could escape a black hole! :shock: Sort of recycling; putting back out there what it gobbled up? 👽
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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:04 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:47 pm
Kinda way above my head! I thought nothing could escape a black hole! :shock: Sort of recycling; putting back out there what it gobbled up? 👽
Nothing has escaped a black hole here. It's a phenomenon that takes place just outside the event horizon.
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Post by Joe2567 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:19 pm

C'est dommage. Another blatant example where Mainstream Astrophysics has NO understanding of what is REALLY going on in the Universe.

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Post by DL MARTIN » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:36 pm

How far away did this occur?

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Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:45 pm

DL MARTIN wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:36 pm
How far away did this occur?
The Ophiuchus galaxy cluster has z=0.028, which means the distance is about 380 million light years.
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Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:46 pm

Joe2567 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:19 pm
C'est dommage. Another blatant example where Mainstream Astrophysics has NO understanding of what is REALLY going on in the Universe.
Actually, we have a decent understanding of the physics that can lead to this sort of event. What is unusual about this is event is its size, not its mechanism.
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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by Lasse H » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:23 pm

wolfie138 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 am
if the blast come from the "+", why is the edge of the cavity concave to it?
This is exactly what I want to know also! The dashed lines drawn in the two rectangles don't seem to have anything at all to do with the pictures shown behind the lines.

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by Spif » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:14 pm

10 billion supernova explosions?

How much energy is one standard supernova (sn) I wonder?

The sub-link in the APOD description was less helpful than I was hoping.

Still worth reading though.

Edit: (Answer by asking Google to convert between Joules and Supernovae.)

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by neufer » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:26 pm

wolfie138 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 am

if the blast come from the "+", why is the edge of the cavity concave to it?
  • Because it is a hole in a convex blob of hot pink gas :!:
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Post by Ann » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:40 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:45 pm
DL MARTIN wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:36 pm
How far away did this occur?
The Ophiuchus galaxy cluster has z=0.028, which means the distance is about 380 million light years.
380 light-years is pretty close, cosmologically speaking.

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by neufer » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:00 pm

Ann wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:40 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:45 pm

The Ophiuchus galaxy cluster has z=0.028, which means the distance is about 380 million light years.
380 light-years is pretty close, cosmologically speaking.
  • Even 380 MILLION light-years is pretty close, cosmotologically speaking:
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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by sillyworm 2 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:06 am

The radio jets in the jets link just blow my mind.They have traveled such great distances.What exactly causes the dissipation/expansion at the ends?

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by Spif » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:02 am

wolfie138 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 am
if the blast come from the "+", why is the edge of the cavity concave to it?
My guess is it is a turbulent jet that is blasting toward us but off axis a bit, maybe 30 degrees. As the jet blasts into the local medium, it balloons out in turbulent eddy's that expand radially away from the line of the jet. Perhaps we are seeing the terminal zone extended some distance away from the black hole in our direction and offset from our line of sight to the black hole because the jet is angled a bit away from us.

Imagine a knight pointing a mace at your knees. Take a picture of that. Then draw a dotted line around the ball of his mace. You would draw an arc much like that seen in the picture relative to the knight's face.

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Re: APOD: An Extreme Black Hole Outburst (2020 Mar 11)

Post by Ann » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:55 am

neufer wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:00 pm
Ann wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:40 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:45 pm

The Ophiuchus galaxy cluster has z=0.028, which means the distance is about 380 million light years.
380 light-years is pretty close, cosmologically speaking.
  • Even 380 MILLION light-years is pretty close, cosmotologically speaking:
Million shmillion, who cares? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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