APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by coffeesippin » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:26 pm

And you can bet your anti-gravity boots they're working hard on Time Travel while they're at it.

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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by neufer » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:03 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:29 pm
neufer wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:12 am
BDanielMayfield wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:29 pm
An additional problem with having planets in and around globulars would be the extremely low metal content of the material that created these star systems. Way back when these star systems were forming there wasn't hardly any heavy elements yet, so forming rocky planets would have been much harder.
There wasn't hardly any heavy elements yet :?:
Some, but not nearly as much as when our solar system formed. M15's metal content is now found to be -2.37 dec, or only 10^-2.37 = 0.00427 times the sun's value. My inference would be that it might well have been much harder for rocky planets to have formed out of material so thinly enriched with metals. It takes a lot of rocks to make rocky planets. Bruce
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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by Chris Peterson » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:55 pm

coffeesippin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:24 pm I hope the NASA National Security Advisors are more up to date than a couple of participants here .. the Chinese are set to get non-local communication going soon. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06 ... d-distance
And that matters why? Even conventional encryption methods are not practically breakable now. Adding another isn't going to change much.
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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by MarkBour » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:59 pm

coffeesippin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:24 pm I hope the NASA National Security Advisors are more up to date than a couple of participants here .. the Chinese are set to get non-local communication going soon. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06 ... d-distance
You reference an article that reports that photons have been quantum-entangled and then sent far apart and remained entangled. I don't see how this could ever help someone transmit information faster than the speed of light.
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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:12 am

MarkBour wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:59 pm
coffeesippin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:24 pm I hope the NASA National Security Advisors are more up to date than a couple of participants here .. the Chinese are set to get non-local communication going soon. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06 ... d-distance
You quote an article that reports that photons have been quantum-entangled and then sent far apart and remained entangled. I don't see how this could ever help someone transmit information faster than the speed of light.
Indeed. Quantum entanglement provides opportunities for perfect encryption, but it does not violate the constraint on how fast information can be transmitted. It does not allow faster than light communications.
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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by bystander » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:18 am

Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:12 am
MarkBour wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:59 pm
coffeesippin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:24 pm I hope the NASA National Security Advisors are more up to date than a couple of participants here .. the Chinese are set to get non-local communication going soon. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06 ... d-distance
You quote an article that reports that photons have been quantum-entangled and then sent far apart and remained entangled. I don't see how this could ever help someone transmit information faster than the speed of light.
Indeed. Quantum entanglement provides opportunities for perfect encryption, but it does not violate the constraint on how fast information can be transmitted. It does not allow faster than light communications.
Well, there's no telling what those National Security Advisors at NASA are doing. They are a pretty secretive bunch of people. In fact, I'm not sure how coffesippin even knows about them.
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Re: APOD: M15: Dense Globular Star Cluster (2018 Oct 17)

Post by CoffeeSippin » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:53 pm

bystander wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:18 am
Well, there's no telling what those National Security Advisors at NASA are doing. They are a pretty secretive bunch of people. In fact, I'm not sure how coffesippin even knows about them.
We're sippin' coffee of course.

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