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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:18 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.
Coral reefs are dying off mostly because of Global Warming.
(New shell generation, however, is slowed by ocean acidification.)

+9 Gigatons/yr = Human carbon production
-3 Gigatons/yr = Terrestrial Net carbon uptake
-2 Gigatons/yr = Oceanic Net carbon uptake
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+4 Gigatons/yr = Carbon into atmosphere
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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:12 pm

neufer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:18 pm
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.
Coral reefs are dying off mostly because of Global Warming.
(New shell generation, however, is slowed by ocean acidification.)

+9 Gigatons/yr = Human carbon production
-3 Gigatons/yr = Terrestrial Net carbon uptake
-2 Gigatons/yr = Oceanic Net carbon uptake
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+4 Gigatons/yr = Carbon into atmosphere
Thanks sincerely Art. Nice graphic and quantifying of the problem.

The cause is anthropomorphic global warming, these are some effects:
  • Higher measured global average temperatures (both land and sea)
    Retreating global annual ice coverage (land and sea)
    Increase in intensity/frequency of floods/storms/droughts
    Increase in frequency of crop reductions/failures
    Rising sea levels, flooding of coastal areas
    Widespread coral reef loss
    Relocation of plants and animals in response to climate change
    Acceleration of extinction rate
I'm sure that my quick off the top list is incomplete. Can you think of more?
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Re: Weather!

Post by geckzilla » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:51 am

More frequent heatwaves with more extreme highs. These are going to be especially deadly to people who have no access to air conditioning.
Fewer cold snaps with higher lows...can you hear the mosquitoes buzzing?
Mass migration of people from places where resource availability becomes unstable and conflicts break out (ask our military about this one)
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:19 am

geckzilla wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:51 am

Mass migration of people from places where resource availability
becomes unstable and conflicts break out (ask our military about this one)

Our future grandchildren hate us.
Well...that's a relief, at least; I don't expect to have anymore grandchildren.
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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:38 am

I hate the cold! We had 1 nice day and now it's cold again! :x Of Coarse in the Summertime, I'll hate the heat! :mrgreen: I'm a fair weather person! 8-) I keep saying Spring is near.
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:38 am

I hate the cold! We had 1 nice day and now it's cold again! :x Of Coarse in the Summertime, I'll hate the heat! :mrgreen:
I'm a fair weather person! 8-) I keep saying Spring is near.
Climate change is all about unfair weather.

Without a frozen Arctic Ocean to maintain the polar vortex:
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:17 am

neufer wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
Part of why we moved to Idaho, your points 2 & 3. And as for point 1, even though we live less than a 2 hour drive from Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks and have been here for the better part of 2 winters we have yet to see a real blizzard. I'm sure that will change at some point, but so far the winters haven't been near as bad as people have warned us about.

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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:59 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:17 am
neufer wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
Part of why we moved to Idaho, your points 2 & 3. And as for point 1, even though we live less than a 2 hour drive from Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks and have been here for the better part of 2 winters we have yet to see a real blizzard. I'm sure that will change at some point, but so far the winters haven't been near as bad as people have warned us about.

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Here in Nebraska I can remember a few winters with intense winters with lots of deep drifts! But more with 2 to 6 inches of snow for the whole winter! Thing is there seems to be more killer storms with more intensity; Hurricanes; Floods; Tornado's; etc; etc! All probably due to Global warming; Some scientists Think the sun is entering a 50 year cooling cycle; ( ?) ! Whatever; probably because on mt age and health; doesn't affect
me as much as mt Children and Grandchildren! So I hope Science can fix the mess we are in! :shock:
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:46 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:59 pm

I hope Science can fix the mess we are in! :shock:
Science is pretty good at figuring out the mess we are in.

Before the current administration I was relatively confident that technology could probably resolve the mess we are in... but not any more :!:
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