Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:16 am
by Beyond
Those "upgrades" look rather "neuferish", to me.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:28 am
by sbbuddha
What's the green cylindrical object to the left of the Shuttle and above the space station?
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:12 am
by Chris Peterson
sbbuddha wrote:What's the green cylindrical object to the left of the Shuttle and above the space station?
A reflection off the inside of the window of something inside the ISS.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:15 am
by John G.
Why does it appear that the earth's atmosphere is protruding into space on the left side of the photo? Is this some sort of atmospheric phenomena or another reflection?
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:03 pm
by owlice
Great image, text, and oh, another nice surprise in the links!! Thanks!
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:53 pm
by neufer
John G. wrote:
Why does it appear that the earth's atmosphere is protruding into space on the left side of the photo?
Is this some sort of atmospheric phenomena or another reflection?
Reflection.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:59 pm
by neufer
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:02 pm
by Chris Peterson
neufer wrote:
John G. wrote:
Why does it appear that the earth's atmosphere is protruding into space on the left side of the photo?
Is this some sort of atmospheric phenomena or another reflection?
Reflection.
Maybe, but unlike the green streak and some other more subtle reflections that clearly come from inside the ISS, the "protruding" atmosphere must be some sort of aberration introduced by the window- smudges on the glass, perhaps.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:09 pm
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:
neufer wrote:
John G. wrote:
Why does it appear that the earth's atmosphere is protruding into space on the left side of the photo?
Is this some sort of atmospheric phenomena or another reflection?
Reflection.
Maybe, but unlike the green streak and some other more subtle reflections that clearly come from inside the ISS, the "protruding" atmosphere must be some sort of aberration introduced by the window- smudges on the glass, perhaps.
That's what I meant: forward scattering reflections due to smudges on the glass.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:12 pm
by biddie67
I am constantly amazed (and awed) that such an unwieldy-looking conglomeration of those many parts can actually hold together and move so gracefully and steadily through its orbits.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:39 pm
by NoelC
Man oh MAN that's a lot of expensive hardware in one picture!!!
Imagine that it takes the combined resources of quite a lot of the civilization on the surface of the planet behind to finance that.
-Noel
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:56 pm
by NoelC
Beyond wrote:Those "upgrades" look rather "neuferish", to me.
I'm no Neufer, but I saw it too...
-Noel
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:08 pm
by sal
I think it would be a good idea to leave the shuttle there (for emergencies). Next trip up could bring the fuel, etc. for it and bring back who's ever turn it is in the rotation.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:27 pm
by BMAONE23
sal wrote:I think it would be a good idea to leave the shuttle there (for emergencies). Next trip up could bring the fuel, etc. for it and bring back who's ever turn it is in the rotation.
This actually might make a lot of sence to leave a Shuttle attached (like the last shuttle trip up) as an emergency evacuation vehicle should the station undergo catastrophic depressurization.
Or as an additional trip and the shuttle could carry a small reentry vehicle in its cargo bay for the crew to return.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:55 pm
by neufer
BMAONE23 wrote:
sal wrote:
I think it would be a good idea to leave the shuttle there (for emergencies). Next trip up could bring the fuel, etc. for it and bring back who's ever turn it is in the rotation.
This actually might make a lot of sence to leave a Shuttle attached (like the last shuttle trip up) as an emergency evacuation vehicle should the station undergo catastrophic depressurization. Or as an additional trip and the shuttle could carry a small reentry vehicle in its cargo bay for the crew to return.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station wrote:
Spacecraft from four different space agencies visit the ISS, serving a variety of purposes. The Automated Transfer Vehicle from the European Space Agency, the Russian Roskosmos Progress spacecraft and the HTV from the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency have provided resupply services to the station. In addition, Russia supplies a Soyuz spacecraft used for crew rotation and emergency evacuation, which is replaced every six months
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:15 pm
by Beyond
neufer wrote:Thats what i meant: forward scattering reflections due to smudges on the glass
Green smudge-->Lime Jello??
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:22 pm
by Beyond
NoelC wrote:
Beyond wrote:Those "upgrades" look rather "neuferish", to me.
I'm no Neufer, but I saw it too...
Pipes.jpg
-Noel
Hmm...I don't see 'pipes' when i click on 'updates'. Maybe you'd better 'click again', Noel.
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:29 pm
by NoelC
Not sure what's up with that, but the file is on the APOD site and it shows just fine here. There's no problem with the URL I can see. Plus it says it's been viewed 144 times, so others are getting it.
Maybe a cache clearing operation is in order on your system?
-Noel
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:31 pm
by NoelC
BMAONE23 wrote:
sal wrote:I think it would be a good idea to leave the shuttle there (for emergencies). Next trip up could bring the fuel, etc. for it and bring back who's ever turn it is in the rotation.
This actually might make a lot of sence to leave a Shuttle attached
I doubt VERY seriously the machine is equipped to be "shut off" for long periods of time then fired up as needed. It's too complex a design to just assume that could be done.
-Noel
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:26 am
by Beyond
NoelC wrote:Not sure what's up with that, but the file is on the APOD site and it shows just fine here. There's no problem with the URL I can see. Plus it says it's been viewed 144 times, so others are getting it.
Maybe a cache clearing operation is in order on your system?
-Noel
Every time i click on upgrade, i get this....
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:45 pm
by JohnD
Nor to be maintained in orbit - access hatches outside, 'quick' release studs that can't done undone in freefall, etc.etc.
Nice idea, wish it had been thought of thirty years ago!
John
Re: APOD: Discovery Visits the Space Station (2011 Mar 01)
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:33 pm
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:
sbbuddha wrote:
What's the green cylindrical object to the left of the Shuttle and above the space station?
A reflection off the inside of the window of something inside the ISS.
Discovery Visits the Space Station
