APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by geckzilla » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:11 pm

ta152h0 wrote:it was noted that Phylae would be taking images as it descends. Is ESA quarantining the images for later release ?
Pretty much. "Embargo" is the favored word, though.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by ta152h0 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:13 pm

didn't Stardust bring back primordial materials ? And it came down quite hard.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Ron-Astro Pharmacist » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:49 pm

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ta152h0 wrote:it was noted that Phylae would be taking images as it descends. Is ESA quarantining the images for later release ?
Pretty much. "Embargo" is the favored word, though.
And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Chris Peterson » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:58 pm

Ron-Astro Pharmacist wrote:And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.
There are also good and important reasons not to release raw data immediately. It depends on the nature of the data, the nature of the research, and the source of the funding. What's needed is some sort of balance between openness and the rights of those actually conducting the research.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by geckzilla » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:07 pm

Hopefully a nice batch of raw data will arrive in six months. I'm more annoyed that the data that does come out is in JPEG format. I figure the morsels they release should at least be available as PNG or TIFF.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Boomer12k » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:18 pm

Looks like craggy beach rock at the beach...only this beach is a looooong way off....

Excellent image though. Too bad about the harpoon failing...hope they can still continue well enough.

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Ron-Astro Pharmacist » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:37 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Ron-Astro Pharmacist wrote:And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.
There are also good and important reasons not to release raw data immediately. It depends on the nature of the data, the nature of the research, and the source of the funding. What's needed is some sort of balance between openness and the rights of those actually conducting the research.
I would agree that I would be reluctant to share information that I worked hard to obtain only to have others benefit unjustly. But it seems unjust that information , meaningless on its own, isn't shared for reasons that don't involve safety or, possibly in this case, that they would convey misinformation or confusion. I also agree balance and rights must be observed and that probably does represent ESA's reluctance to release their property.

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Czerno o » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:13 pm

Breaking news from ESA : Philae still alive and busy sending data now !

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Czerno o » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:23 pm

Czerno o wrote:Breaking news from ESA : Philae still alive and busy sending data now !
Also, they are using the drill to try and rotate the lab so solar pannels are better oriented ! Wow !

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by geckzilla » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:42 pm

All of the Twitter updates about Philae just went from being happy about maneuvers and receiving data to grim endings and voltage plummeting.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Astronymus » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:39 am

They were able to turn it to get more sunlight. Looks like Philae is not yet dead.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Astronymus » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:37 am

Philae is asleep now after sending all data and performing all planned experiments. It may wake up when conditions become right and the lander gets more sunlight as the comet approaches the sun.

Good luck, Philae, and sleep well.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by ta152h0 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:12 am

I always hoped Huygens would bounce back but ........
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by kat330 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:51 pm

Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:

http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister

Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":

http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002

Thanks! Kathleen

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by Ann » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:03 pm

kat330 wrote:Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:

http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister

Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":

http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002

Thanks! Kathleen
Thanks, I liked it! :D

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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:26 pm

Ann wrote:
kat330 wrote:Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:

http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister

Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":

http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002

Thanks! Kathleen
Thanks, I liked it! :D

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I liked them both. Thank you Kathleen. :clap:

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