APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

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APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by APOD Robot » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:08 am

Image A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake

Explanation: This was a sky to show the kids. All in all, three children, three planets, the Moon, a star, an airplane and a mom were all captured in one image near Great Salt Lake in Utah, USA in early September of 2005. Minus the airplane and the quadruple on the ground, this busy quadruple coincidence sky was visible last week all over the world. The easiest object to spot is the crescent Moon, which is easily the brightest sky orb in the featured image. Venus is the highest planet in the sky, with Jupiter to its right. The bright star Spica completes the quadruple just below Venus. The streak on the far right is an airplane. Mom is seated. Grandpa, appreciating the beauty of the moment, took the picture. This week, the pre-dawn sky shows a similar conjunction of planets.

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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by dcsavage » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:38 am

You mention 3 planets are visable in the picture but only identify two (Venus and Jupiter). Did you mean to only mention 2 or was Spica misidentified?

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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by bystander » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:57 am

Earth is visible. Earth is a planet.
Know the quiet place within your heart and touch the rainbow of possibility; be
alive to the gentle breeze of communication, and please stop being such a jerk.
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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by RedFishBlueFish » Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:01 pm

bystander wrote:Earth is visible. Earth is a planet.
Si.

Howsomeever, when one saw the sky this past week, it was Jupiter, Venus and Mars which were visually close to one another - so it is not clear why Luna, Spica, Jupiter and Venus can count as "the same" quadrangle.

The (re)selection of this photo for APOD does mind one of the practice of sharing photos of one's most remarkable baby ... and one does accept it with the same patience, as APOD remains my favourite website.

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Post by keithastro » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:47 pm

The picture is back to front.

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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:25 pm

keithastro wrote:The picture is back to front.
What does that mean? Some kind of mirror image? The picture is geometrically correct, showing the actual appearance of the western evening sky on 6 September 2005.
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Post by quigley » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:09 pm

Is Mars not visible in this shot due to the morning light?

And please, what DOES back to front mean?

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Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:20 pm

quigley wrote:Is Mars not visible in this shot due to the morning light?
This image was made in the evening, just past sunset. Mars rose on the opposite side of the sky about three hours later.
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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by BMAONE23 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:38 am

quigley wrote:Is Mars not visible in this shot due to the morning light?

And please, what DOES back to front mean?
Don't forget, this image is a Sunday repeat from 2005 and doesn't represent the current configuration

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Post by Rusty Brown in Cda » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:31 am

I'm mystified: if Venus and Jupiter define the ecliptic in this picture, then the sun must be setting almost horizontally, or not even setting at all, as at the north pole in summer.
Can anyone offer enlightenment?

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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Sky Over Great Salt Lake (2015 Nov 08)

Post by Chris Peterson » Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Rusty Brown in Cda wrote:I'm mystified: if Venus and Jupiter define the ecliptic in this picture, then the sun must be setting almost horizontally, or not even setting at all, as at the north pole in summer.
Can anyone offer enlightenment?
Neither Venus nor Jupiter define the ecliptic. The ecliptic is defined by the plane of Earth's orbit around the Sun. Jupiter does not lie on that plane- its orbit is tipped by 1.3°. Venus does not lie on that plane, either- its orbit is tipped by 3.4°. So depending on where each planet is on its orbit, we see it deviate from the ecliptic. Of course, if all the planets actually orbited on a common plane we wouldn't just have regular conjunctions, but regular transits- events that are very rare indeed.
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