Fascinating to see the deployment of the 10 satellites. Also awesome how they managed to put extra hosted payload on them, to monitor planes and ships. Makes me wonder, once fully operational, would this have sped up the search effort for MH370? Seems to me like it could, as it could work out of range of land based receivers. (ADS-B is far from fool-proof though, as it has no authentication, and it is not required yet for all airplanes.)
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:10 pm
by Iron Mouse
I'd like to know more about the one-second launch window.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:33 pm
by Chris Peterson
Iron Mouse wrote:I'd like to know more about the one-second launch window.
Probably related to the complex final orbital pattern of the Iridium satellites.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:42 pm
by RJN
Guest wrote:Falcon 9, but not Heavy.
Thanks. Yes, it was "just" a Falcon 9 and not a Falcon 9 Heavy. My mistake. I have now updated the APOD.
- RJN
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:28 pm
by BDanielMayfield
From the location of both the launch and the photographer it appears that this could have been a north to south polar trajectory. Was that the case?
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:46 pm
by Chris Peterson
BDanielMayfield wrote:From the location of both the launch and the photographer it appears that this could have been a north to south polar trajectory. Was that the case?
Iridium satellites are in nearly, but not quite polar orbits.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:20 pm
by geckzilla
RJN wrote:
Guest wrote:Falcon 9, but not Heavy.
Thanks. Yes, it was "just" a Falcon 9 and not a Falcon 9 Heavy. My mistake. I have now updated the APOD.
- RJN
My mistake, too.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:32 pm
by MarkBour
madtom1999 wrote:So what is (or what causes) the central blob about a 1/3rd the way down the main plume?
I'd certainly be interested in this, too. It makes for a nice "eye", when one imagines the shape is a large fish. But it was strange to watch it evolving quite a bit, almost like a booster had fallen away and was still burning. But I have to realize I have never seen a rocket plume lit by the sun in this unique way before. Maybe such a central vortex is a commonplace from rocket exhaust that we never saw. It looks pretty strange, though. Part of the time, it looks like someone is blowing smoke rings.
EDIT: I just watched a recent SpaceX launch video. I believe the small plume in the middle of the main plume is Stage 1 of the Falcon doing a "boost-back" maneuver. It happens pretty shortly after the first stage separates from the ongoing Stage 2. That would explain it, it is another rocket burn. I am told they did not actually save the first stage this time, but I still think it did a post-separation burn. I don't know why. Perhaps to stabilize re-entry or perhaps, even though they were not recovering it, they needed to position its re-entry location a bit.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:30 am
by ta152h0
So this is not a University of California student prank ?
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:43 am
by geckzilla
Another great video of the event.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:10 am
by BillBixby
geckzilla wrote:Another great video of the event.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
G, thank you.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:26 am
by ta152h0
Imagine a rocket cam video of this
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:42 pm
by neufer
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:55 pm
by Chris Peterson
ta152h0 wrote:Imagine a rocket cam video of this
If you go to the SpaceX site you can see the entire launch and deployment sequence, including from cameras on the rocket. Really, from that view you don't see much. It is most impressive from a distance. Kind of like the way galaxies are impressive from a distance, and just a vague gray band when you are inside them.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:02 am
by MarkBour
Chris Peterson wrote:
ta152h0 wrote:Imagine a rocket cam video of this
If you go to the SpaceX site you can see the entire launch and deployment sequence, including from cameras on the rocket. Really, from that view you don't see much. It is most impressive from a distance. Kind of like the way galaxies are impressive from a distance, and just a vague gray band when you are inside them.
To each his own? I really enjoyed watching the Iridium sats floating free from the rocket. At one point near the end, you see several of them all deployed, trailing off into the distance, like a string of pearls. But perhaps what ta152h0 wanted to see was an artificial reverse sunset from the view of the rocket.
Re: APOD: SpaceX Rocket Launch Plume over... (2017 Dec 24)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:28 pm
by Chris Peterson
MarkBour wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:If you go to the SpaceX site you can see the entire launch and deployment sequence, including from cameras on the rocket. Really, from that view you don't see much. It is most impressive from a distance. Kind of like the way galaxies are impressive from a distance, and just a vague gray band when you are inside them.
To each his own? I really enjoyed watching the Iridium sats floating free from the rocket. At one point near the end, you see several of them all deployed, trailing off into the distance, like a string of pearls. But perhaps what ta152h0 wanted to see was an artificial reverse sunset from the view of the rocket.
Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that the rocket cam video isn't neat. Only that it isn't a good platform for seeing the light show in the sky.