APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Comments and questions about the APOD on the main view screen.
Post Reply
User avatar
APOD Robot
Otto Posterman
Posts: 5377
Joined: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:27 am
Contact:

APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by APOD Robot » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:06 am

Image Lightning on Jupiter

Explanation: Does lightning occur only on Earth? No. Spacecraft in our Solar System have detected lightning on other planets, including Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, and lightning is likely on Venus, Uranus, and Neptune. Lightning is a sudden rush of electrically charged particles from one location to another. On Earth, drafts of colliding ice and water droplets usually create lightning-generating charge separation, but what happens on Jupiter? Images and data from NASA's Jupiter-orbiting Juno spacecraft bolster previous speculation that Jovian lightning is also created in clouds containing water and ice. In the featured Juno photograph, an optical flash was captured in a large cloud vortex near Jupiter's north pole. During the next few months, Juno will perform several close sweeps over Jupiter's night side, likely allowing the robotic probe to capture more data and images of Jovian lightning.

<< Previous APOD This Day in APOD Next APOD >>

alex555

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by alex555 » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:41 am

In this image, you can even see the light from the lightning scattering through the cloud. Considering the distance at which Juno is, it is really impressive and it says a lot about the intensity of the lightning below.

Alex

User avatar
VictorBorun
Captain
Posts: 1042
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:25 pm
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by VictorBorun » Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am

I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)

User avatar
Ann
4725 Å
Posts: 13435
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 5:33 am

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by Ann » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:18 am

VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
You and me both, Victor.

Ann
Color Commentator

Astronut
Asternaut
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:57 pm

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by Astronut » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:26 am

Are there estimates of the water content in the Jovian atmosphere? Does it vary?

guest again

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by guest again » Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:31 pm

Green lightning, blue thunder?

User avatar
Chris Peterson
Abominable Snowman
Posts: 18193
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:13 pm
Location: Guffey, Colorado, USA
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm

VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
Chris

*****************************************
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
https://www.cloudbait.com

De58te
Commander
Posts: 584
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by De58te » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:15 pm

Just a thought of why the lightning is green instead of electrical white. On Earth Auroras are usually photographed green and are from Solar winds descending the magnetic poles. Jupiter's magnetic fields are ten times stronger than Earth. And this is near Jupiter's north pole. Could this wide green circle actually be an aurora instead of a narrow lightning bolt?

User avatar
VictorBorun
Captain
Posts: 1042
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:25 pm
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by VictorBorun » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:32 pm

guest again wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:31 pm Green lightning, blue thunder?
if this lightning was thick hot plasma channel, then it should be the colour of blue giants: bluish

User avatar
VictorBorun
Captain
Posts: 1042
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:25 pm
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by VictorBorun » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:35 pm

De58te wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:15 pm Just a thought of why the lightning is green instead of electrical white. On Earth Auroras are usually photographed green and are from Solar winds descending the magnetic poles. Jupiter's magnetic fields are ten times stronger than Earth. And this is near Jupiter's north pole. Could this wide green circle actually be an aurora instead of a narrow lightning bolt?
if this lightning was a thin plasma fluorescence, then it should be bleak and invisible within low Sun's dusk

User avatar
VictorBorun
Captain
Posts: 1042
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:25 pm
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by VictorBorun » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?

User avatar
Chris Peterson
Abominable Snowman
Posts: 18193
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:13 pm
Location: Guffey, Colorado, USA
Contact:

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:48 pm

VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?
Not at all. It may have only been caught by the green channel.
Chris

*****************************************
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
https://www.cloudbait.com

User avatar
Ann
4725 Å
Posts: 13435
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 5:33 am

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by Ann » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:22 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:48 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm

Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?
Not at all. It may have only been caught by the green channel.
Thanks, Chris. That makes sense.

Ann
Color Commentator

User avatar
orin stepanek
Plutopian
Posts: 8200
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:41 pm
Location: Nebraska

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Post by orin stepanek » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:19 pm

juplight_gal.jpg
Night lights on jupiter!

little dog in middle a lot like my dog! 8-)
Attachments
1000_F_478176241_p5m7EUHkXjdNiStGknkInH6KvCbwm3NE.jpg
Orin

Smile today; tomorrow's another day!

Post Reply