johnnydeep wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:08 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:55 pm
johnnydeep wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:03 pm
Frankly, though, I see no signs of any of these supposedly infant stars blowing
any of their surrounding dust away.
I don't think that's quite what happens. They blow away little bubbles around themselves deep in the cloud, but they are exposed as winds from hot stars outside the molecular cloud erode away the cloud wall.
Here's M16 and the Cone next to each other, normalized to their actual relative sizes (M16 is 2.5 times further away than the Cone). Similarly sized structures, but it looks like M16 has been chipped away at for quite a bit longer.
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I see. So the sculpting of the clouds doesn't stem from any stars they might be incubating, but from extrinsic stars. Very interesting.
Pillars can be sculpted by the stars that they are giving birth to. Take a look at the tallest pillar in the Mystic Mountain in Carina:
You can see that the tallest pillar appears to be precessing like a top, because the young star being formed at the top of it and emitting double jets. Look at how thin the "neck" of this pillar is. It will probably soon be eroded away.
Also note another jet from another young star inside another pillar.
But also note how the entire large structure seems to be eroding away. The small stars inside the pillars aren't responsible for that. Take a look at this Hubble picture of the central Carina Nebula:
I'm not annotating this image, but you should have no problems finding the Mystic Mountain. It is the bright vaguely V-shaped structure at upper right. The tall pillar that you just saw "standing up" is "hanging down" in this picture. You can just make out the jets emerging from it.
Note the bright stars some distance below and to the left of the Mystic Mountain. This is the Trumpler 14 cluster, and it contains some of the hottest and brightest star in the entire Milky Way.
It is Trumpler 14 that is really sculpting and eating away at the Mystic Mountain.
Similarly, the Dark Tower in Scorpius is being sculpted and eroded by the massive cluster NGC 6231:
Dark Tower in Scorpius and NGC 6231 by Gerald Rhemann.png
The Dark Tower in Scorpius is being sculpted by massive cluster NGC 6231.
Credit: Gerald Rhemann.
Ann
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