APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

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Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by saturno2 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:57 pm

Thanks owlice for your important explanation.
2020 Jun 10
A day of silence in APOD
A day of silence for humanity
We need to remember that Africa was the
cradle of humanity

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by MarkBour » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:47 pm

I think this effort (of taking a "day off" in APOD) was a good one, and has had a helpful effect (I know it has helped me, I hope it has helped many others, as well). I have appreciated the comments and links that have been posted. I've begun reading and learning from the links that were posted by so many of you here. In particular, I'm working on those Justice in June materials.

And I'm inspired by the comment of ems57fcva :
ems57fcva wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:07 am What are we going to be doing going forward to make STEM as available to people of color as for anyone else? It is way too easy to make a gesture like this and then move on and not make the promised difference. Part of the reason for the fury over George Floyd is that there have been too many promises over the years and too little action.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by owlice » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:58 pm

bystander wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:52 pm
Fred Garthok wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:26 am FYI - the Justice in June link appears to be broken
Try Justice in June
Thank you, gentlemen!! Much appreciated! I have edited the link in previous posts.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by bystander » Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:52 pm

Fred Garthok wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:26 am FYI - the Justice in June link appears to be broken
Try Justice in June

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Moonwalker » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:11 am

Chris Peterson wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:22 pm
GeoXXXXX wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:08 pm It’s beautiful and technically well done but these type of composites I find are leaving me cold. They really look unnatural with the super saturation and the foreground that just looks “fakey” for lack of a better word. It’s the same problem with HDR, most people just overdo it in spades.
The foreground adds nothing to the photo, it distracts from the wonderful shot of Orion.
Just my two cents...
Agreed. I don't get much out of a picture like this. The same shot, much less deep, and covering a somewhat larger field would have worked better, I think. Something that shows all of Orion setting against the mountains becomes something that can enhance what we already see with our eyes. The disparity between the celestial and the terrestrial, though, is just too great in this image to make much sense.
Hi, Guys! I actually love that with an image of mountains I can see with my eyes, there´s this beautiful image of the sky and its stars which I could not see with my eyes without a zoom, and great exposure, and multiple shots, etc. I am not a photographer or astronomer, just a simple citizen who loves looking at the sky and I think where you find what you don´t like I find what I most like ;) There are lots of bigger images of nebulas and only of space that I love too but the mountains here bring closer the sky for me, they make this marvel more "human", more touchable, approachable; they remind me that from where we live, from where we stand we have this amazing stuff above.
Regarding the technical part of the photo, I heard the photographer on tv say, it was with a normal professional camera with a 180 I think. Multiple expositions (26 I think he said) and he has like a motor to compensate the Earth rotation. Then he took a pic of the landscape. No extra lenses. The only thing was the multiple shots as each of them were of 3 mins exposure and then bring them together (I don´t know how). Something like this is what I understood. Sorry, not a very scientific explanation, haha, more or less what I remembered from the interview. Regards!

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Fred Garthok » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:26 am

owlice wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:54 am Many scientists and others involved in STEM are taking time on June 10 to focus on activities and actionable plans that work towards ending racism. I post here resources in support of #ShutDownSTEM.

Justice in June
Annotated list of learning resources that take 10, 25, or 45 minutes to complete to become more informed as step one to becoming an active ally to the Black community compiled by Autumn Gupta with Bryanna Wallace.

Particles for Justice Recommended Resources
Self care for Black people, books, online articles and resources, podcasts, kid-friendly resources, and projects funding.

Anti-Racism Podcast Sampler Spotify playlist
A working list of episodes to introduce individual podcasts and topics created by Amy Steele (UMD Astronomy).
FYI - the Justice in June link appears to be broken

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by orin stepanek » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:25 pm

owlice wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:54 am Many scientists and others involved in STEM are taking time on June 10 to focus on activities and actionable plans that work towards ending racism. I post here resources in support of #ShutDownSTEM.

Justice in June
Annotated list of learning resources that take 10, 25, or 45 minutes to complete to become more informed as step one to becoming an active ally to the Black community compiled by Autumn Gupta with Bryanna Wallace.

Particles for Justice Recommended Resources
Self care for Black people, books, online articles and resources, podcasts, kid-friendly resources, and projects funding.

Anti-Racism Podcast Sampler Spotify playlist
A working list of episodes to introduce individual podcasts and topics created by Amy Steele (UMD Astronomy).
Thanks! 😎

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by geckzilla » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:53 am

ems57fcva wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:07 am I finally have figured #ShutDownSTEM. How nice. But tomorrow STEM is back up and running. What are we going to be doing going forward to make STEM as available to people of color as for anyone else? It is way too easy to make a gesture like this and then move on and not make the promised difference. Part of the reason for the fury over George Floyd is that there have been too many promises over the years and too little action.
the cool thing is a lot of people have been thinking about this for more than just a few days, and they've even put websites together and links for you to follow
owlice wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:54 am Many scientists and others involved in STEM are taking time on June 10 to focus on activities and actionable plans that work towards ending racism. I post here resources in support of #ShutDownSTEM.

Justice in June
Annotated list of learning resources that take 10, 25, or 45 minutes to complete to become more informed as step one to becoming an active ally to the Black community compiled by Autumn Gupta with Bryanna Wallace.

Particles for Justice Recommended Resources
Self care for Black people, books, online articles and resources, podcasts, kid-friendly resources, and projects funding.

Anti-Racism Podcast Sampler Spotify playlist
A working list of episodes to introduce individual podcasts and topics created by Amy Steele (UMD Astronomy).

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by ems57fcva » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:07 am

Chris Peterson wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]
#ShutDownSTEM
I finally have figured #ShutDownSTEM. How nice. But tomorrow STEM is back up and running. What are we going to be doing going forward to make STEM as available to people of color as for anyone else? It is way too easy to make a gesture like this and then move on and not make the promised difference. Part of the reason for the fury over George Floyd is that there have been too many promises over the years and too little action.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:13 pm

saturno2 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:06 pm Off topic
There is not APOD today 10 jun 2020
Read. Thread. Before. Posting.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by saturno2 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:06 pm

Off topic
There is not APOD today 10 jun 2020

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by owlice » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:38 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40653#p302974

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by owlice » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:37 pm

wilhuf wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:32 pm A #ShutDownSTEM tag would help readers understand the situation.

I doubt USG sites can legally post such tags on their public web pages.
https://www.llnl.gov/news/shutdownstem- ... ing-racism

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by starsurfer » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:08 pm

#PlanetaryNebulaeMatter

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by wilhuf » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:32 pm

A #ShutDownSTEM tag would help readers understand the situation.

I doubt USG sites can legally post such tags on their public web pages.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:22 pm

MarkBour wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:17 pm #BlackSkiesMatter

Or is that attempt at humor in bad taste?
Shaky ground, my friend, shaky ground...

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by MarkBour » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:17 pm

#BlackSkiesMatter

Or is that attempt at humor in bad taste?

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by ems57fcva » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:10 pm

GeoXXXXX wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:08 pm It’s beautiful and technically well done but these type of composites I find are leaving me cold. They really look unnatural with the super saturation and the foreground that just looks “fakey” for lack of a better word. It’s the same problem with HDR, most people just overdo it in spades.
The foreground adds nothing to the photo, it distracts from the wonderful shot of Orion.
Just my two cents...

Eric
I think that it does a good job of giving people a feel for the neighborhood around Orion's Belt. In some ways it is well composed, but I also see that the mountains add little to it (even though I am an avid hiker). Sometime light-years and light-microseconds just don't mix well.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:04 pm

ems57fcva wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:00 pm
Leon1949Green wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:23 pm Now it is June 10, but the Orion picture is still there.
At the bottom of the picture, it says "Next picture: June 11". So there is no APOD for today (6/10). But why? This is the first time in a long time that they have skipped a day. In fact I don't know of another day that they have skipped since near the start of this back in the 1990s.
See above.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by ems57fcva » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:00 pm

Leon1949Green wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:23 pm Now it is June 10, but the Orion picture is still there.
At the bottom of the picture, it says "Next picture: June 11". So there is no APOD for today (6/10). But why? This is the first time in a long time that they have skipped a day. In fact I don't know of another day that they have skipped since near the start of this back in the 1990s.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:52 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:46 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]
#ShutDownSTEM
Ah. Poor name though - too permanent sounding. Would be much better as "#PauseSTEM".
Agreed. I think the tag carries the wrong sense. But it is what it is.

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by johnnydeep » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:46 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]
#ShutDownSTEM
Ah. Poor name though - too permanent sounding. Would be much better as "#PauseSTEM".

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]
#ShutDownSTEM

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by johnnydeep » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pm

Off (this) topic, but is there no APOD today? I get this "The requested URL /apod/ap200610.html was not found on this server."

[EDIT: Leon1949Green beat me to it!]

Re: APOD: Orion over Argentine Mountains (2020 Jun 09)

by Leon1949Green » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:23 pm

Now it is June 10, but the Orion picture is still there.

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