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ellipse focus question

Post by rriverstone » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:04 pm

So, I'm too ignorant to know if this person's idea is misguided, so I'm asking, to find out. The person said that, if the sun is a focus of a planetary ellipse, something else has to be a focus on the other side of the ellipse. Intuitively, this feels wrong to me, probably because I play with yo yos and the like. The person said the phantom or ghost ellipse is dark matter, but i'm thinking it's just not there. SO? :/
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Re: ellipse focus question

Post by neufer » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:30 am

rriverstone wrote:
The person said that, if the sun is a focus of a planetary ellipse, something else has to be a focus on the other side of the ellipse. Intuitively, this feels wrong to me, probably because I play with yo yos and the like. The person said the phantom or ghost ellipse is dark matter, but i'm thinking it's just not there. SO? :/
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The answer is contained within the posted diagram:
There is NOT a symmetry between the two foci:
equal areas are circumscribed in equal times ONLY as regards the sun focus.
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Re: ellipse focus question

Post by rriverstone » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:59 am

I thought so. The real focus is the sun. The secondary position in the ellipse, while it may be CALLED a "focus," does not require a body with mass, gravity, etc. for the elliptical orbit to function. Having rolled pennies in those giant funnel thingies in malls, I didn't think a 2nd object was necessary. Water goes down my bath tub drain without another hole at the other end, too.

I hope i understood your answer. thx