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outlaw
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Virtual particles

Post by outlaw » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:46 pm

Do Virtual particles travel faster than light? Im confussed because i keep getting diffrent answers.I would appreciate the help.

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Re: Virtual particles

Post by neufer » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:01 pm

outlaw wrote:
Do Virtual particles travel faster than light? I'm confused because i keep getting different answers. I would appreciate the help.
One usually refers to their momentum rather than their velocity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_shell_and_off_shell wrote:
<<In physics, particularly in quantum field theory, configurations of a physical system that satisfy classical equations of motion are called on shell, and those that do not are called off shell. For instance, in classical mechanics in the action formulation, extremal solutions to the variational principle are on shell and the Euler-Lagrange equations are on shell equations (i.e., they do not hold off shell).

The term comes from the phrase mass shell, which is a synonym for mass hyperboloid, meaning the hyperboloid in energy-momentum space describing the solutions to the equation

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describing combinations of energy E and momentum p allowed by classical special relativity for a particle of mass m; where c is the speed of light. The equation for the mass shell is also often written in terms of the four-momentum, in Einstein notation and units where c = 1, as p2 = m2.

Virtual particles corresponding to internal propagators in a Feynman diagram are in general allowed to be off shell, but the amplitude for the process will diminish depending on how far off shell they are; the propagator typically has singularities on the mass shell.

When speaking of the propagator, negative values for E that satisfy the equation are thought of as being on shell, though the classical theory does not allow negative values for the energy of a particle. This is because the propagator incorporates into one expression the cases in which the particle carries energy in one direction, and in which its antiparticle carries energy in the other direction; negative and positive on-shell E then simply represent opposing flows of positive energy.>>
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Re: Virtual particles

Post by RJN » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:09 pm

There are online lectures on this very bulletin board that discuss this point. Please see:
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewforum.php?f=39 , scroll down, and click on "Virtual Particles". I hope this is a help. - RJN

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Re: Virtual particles

Post by outlaw » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:27 pm

what im confussed is that something traveling faster than light means traveling backwards in time and it says nothing of virtual particles doing that.also does something that travels backwards in time mean it violates causality?

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Re: Virtual particles

Post by outlaw » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:49 pm

i've seen the videos on virtual particles but have some questions.do virtual particles exist or not?

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Re: Virtual particles

Post by Céline Richard » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:40 pm

It seems (futura science, techno-science) that virtual particules are predicted by theory, without being found by experience, neither observed.

I think physicists have strong reasons to think virtual particules exist, because the greatest acelerator particules of the world (LHC), at the CERN, in Geneva, Switzerland, was built in order to find out the Higgs Boson, a virtual particle.
You can check this here: http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins/ce ... higgs.html

Céline :)
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