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Hole from on high
Science News | Earth | 22 July 2010
Egyptian impact crater first spotted on Google Earth

Researchers poring over Google Earth images have discovered one of Earth’s freshest impact craters — a 45-meter-wide pock in southwestern Egypt that probably was excavated by a fast-moving iron meteorite no more than a few thousand years ago.

Although the crater was first noticed in autumn 2008, researchers have since spotted the blemish on satellite images taken as far back as 1972, says Luigi Folco, a cosmochemist at the University of Siena in Italy. He and his colleagues report their find online July 22 in Science.

The rim of the Egyptian crater stands about 3 meters above the surrounding plain, which is partially covered with distinct swaths of light-colored material blasted from the crater by the impact. These rays, which emanate from the impact site like spokes from the hub of a wheel, are what drew researchers’ attention to the crater, says Folco. While such “rayed craters” are common on the moon and other airless bodies of the solar system, they are exceedingly rare on Earth because erosion and other geological processes quickly erase such evidence.

During expeditions to the site early in 2009 and again this year, scientists found more than 5,000 iron meteorites that together weigh more than 1.7 tons. The team estimates that the original lump of iron weighed between 5 and 10 metric tons when it slammed into the ground at a speed of around 3.5 kilometers per second, with most of the material vaporizing during the collision.

Analyses of soil samples from the site and of sand fused into glass by the impact’s intense heat and pressure may help the team estimate when the event occurred. Preliminary analyses suggest that it happened sometime during the last 10,000 years, probably no more than 5,000 years ago, Folco says.

The Kamil Crater in Egypt - L Folco et al
[list]Science (online 22 Jul 2010) DOI: 10.1126/science.1190990[/list]
Pristine Impact Crater Discovered in Egypt Desert
Space.com | Science | 22 July 2010
What may be the best-preserved small impact crater ever seen on Earth has been discovered in the remote Egyptian desert, scientists announced Thursday.

The crater, called Kamil, is positively pristine when compared to most holes in the Earth gouged by impacting meteorites. Where many craters on our planet are partially eroded, this one retains much of its structure, down to even the rays of ejected material that were shot from the center when the space rock hit.

"This crater is really a kind of beauty because it's so well-preserved that it will tell us a lot about small-scale meteorite impacts on the Earth's crust," said study leader Luigi Folco, meteorite curator at the Museo Nazionale dell'Antartide in Siena, Italy. "It's so nice. It's so neat. There is something extraordinary about it."

Generally, craters this immaculate are found only on the moon or Mars, where there are fewer environmental and atmospheric processes to destroy them, he said.
"Fresh" Crater Found in Egypt; Changes Impact Risk?
National Geographic News | 22 July 2010
A small impact crater discovered in the Egyptian desert could change estimates for impact hazards to our planet, according to a new study.

One of the best preserved craters yet found on Earth, the Kamil crater was initially discovered in February during a survey of satellite images on Google Earth. Researchers think the crater formed within the past couple thousand years.


The Italian-Egyptian team that found the crater in pictures recently visited and studied the 147-foot-wide (45-meter-wide), 52-foot-deep (16-meter-deep) hole. The team also collected thousands of pieces of the space rock that littered the surrounding desert.

Based on their calculations, the team thinks that a 4.2-foot-wide (1.3-meter-wide) solid iron meteor weighing 2,267 to 4,535 pounds (5,000 to 10,000 kilograms) smashed into the desert—nearly intact—at speeds exceeding 2.1 miles (3.5 kilometers) a second.

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bystander wrote:"Fresh" Crater Found in Egypt; Changes Impact Risk?
National Geographic News | 22 July 2010
Based on their calculations, the team thinks that a 4.2-foot-wide (1.3-meter-wide) solid iron meteor weighing 2,267 to 4,535 pounds (5,000 to 10,000 kilograms) smashed into the desert—nearly intact—at speeds exceeding 2.1 miles (3.5 kilometers) a second.
Hmmm... somebody at NatGeo needs to figure out the difference between the multiply key and the divide key on their calculator.
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Chris Peterson wrote:Hmmm... somebody at NatGeo needs to figure out the difference between the multiply key and the divide key on their calculator.
:lol: Went right past me. How about (1,000 to 2,000 kilograms)?

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bystander wrote:Went right past me. How about (1,000 to 2,000 kilograms)?
They converted incorrectly the other way. A 1.3 meter iron meteorite will mass around 10,000 kg. So the metric units were correct (as you'd expect, since these were in the original publication) and the conversion to pounds is what fell apart.
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New Desert Crater Found Using Google Maps and Free Software
Technology Review | the physics arXiv blog | 10 Aug 2010
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The discovery of a new crater in the Bayuda Desert in Sudan suggests that the next generation of crater hunters could be amateurs based at home.

Most of the rocky planets, moons and asteroids in the Solar System are pock-marked with impact craters of all sizes. On Earth, however, small craters are rare because they quickly get eroded by weather and water.

So the discovery of new small craters is a reason to celebrate. A couple of weeks ago, an Italian team announced in the journal Science that it had used Google Earth to identify an impact crater in the remote desert of southern Egypt. A quick trip to the region showed this crater to be 45 meters in diameter and reasonably well-preserved in the desert rocks.

Now, just a few days later, Amelia Sparavigna at the Politecnico di Torino in Italy has found evidence of another crater in the Bayuda Desert in Sudan using Google Maps. This one is a little bigger: about 10 kilometres in diameter.

What's interesting about this discovery is the technology used to make it. Sparavigna used Google Maps, an astronomical image-processing program called AstroFracTool which she and a colleague developed, and an open source image-processing package called GIMP.

All of this stuff is available for free on the web, making this kind of discovery open to all. That means the next generation of crater hunters could just as easily be amateurs working from home as professional geologists working on location.

How likely are these crater hunters to find anything? On other bodies in the Solar System, small impact craters are more common by far than large ones, a statistic that reflects the size distribution of rocks floating round up there.

However, the size distribution of craters on Earth is the opposite. The 170 or so known craters here have diameters up to 300 km but fewer than 15 of these are smaller than 300 metres across. The reason is that most small craters are quickly eroded away. However, those that have been preserved are likely to be in desert regions. They remain undiscovered because these areas have been poorly explored.

That suggests an opportunity. The recent successes of crater hunters in these vast, largely unexplored desert regions suggests that there are more to find out there for anybody with access to a computer and some spare time on their hands.

Let the crater rush begin.
Crater-like landform in Bayuda desert (a processing of satellite images) - AC Sparavigna

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Chris Peterson wrote:
bystander wrote:Went right past me. How about (1,000 to 2,000 kilograms)?
They converted incorrectly the other way. A 1.3 meter iron meteorite will mass around 10,000 kg. So the metric units were correct (as you'd expect, since these were in the original publication) and the conversion to pounds is what fell apart.
That's why you should give up that nonsense about pounds and miles. Didn't a NASA spacecraft get lost on its way to Mars a couple of years ago because some technician or engineer didn't know the difference between kilometers and miles?

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Ann wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
They converted incorrectly the other way. A 1.3 meter iron meteorite will mass around 10,000 kg. So the metric units were correct (as you'd expect, since these were in the original publication) and the conversion to pounds is what fell apart.
That's why you should give up that nonsense about pounds and miles. Didn't a NASA spacecraft get lost on its way to Mars a couple of years ago because some technician or engineer didn't know the difference between kilometers and miles?
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<<The Mars Climate Orbiter (formerly the Mars Surveyor '98 Orbiter) was one of two NASA spacecraft in the Mars Surveyor '98 program, the other being the Mars Polar Lander (formerly the Mars Surveyor '98 Lander). The two missions were to study the Martian weather, climate, water and carbon dioxide budget, in order to understand the reservoirs, behavior, and atmospheric role of volatiles and to search for evidence of long-term and episodic climate changes.

The Mars Climate Orbiter was intended to enter orbit at an altitude of 140.5–150 km (460,000-500,000 ft.) above Mars. However, a navigation error caused the spacecraft to reach as low as 57 km (190,000 ft.). The spacecraft was destroyed by atmospheric stresses and friction at this low altitude. The loss of the craft was the result of several factors, including a design flaw that resulted in asymmetric torque, software errors in the small forces model, and management inattention.

The metric/imperial mix-up that destroyed the craft was caused by a human error in the software development. The thrusters on the spacecraft, which were intended to control its rate of rotation, were controlled by a computer that underestimated the effect of the thrusters by a factor of 4.45. The software was working in pounds force, while the spacecraft expected figures in newtons; 1 pound force equals approximately 4.45 newtons.

The software had been adapted from use on the earlier Mars Global Surveyor, and was not adequately tested before launch. The navigation data provided by this software was also not cross-checked while in flight. Multiple calculations which indicated that the probe was off course were ignored.

Total project cost was $327.6 million for both orbiter and lander (not including Deep Space 2). Out of this, $193.1 million were for spacecraft development, $91.7 million for launch, and $42.8 million for mission operations.>>
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