APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by BillBixby » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:23 pm

owlice wrote:Those who are unhappy with this APOD because it shows Earth, please go look at this APOD instead.

Thanks!

Given the current weather across a good swath of the US, I find this APOD relevant, interesting, and informative. And it makes me quite glad for the current weather across a good swath of the US, even with the low high temperature today!
Wow Owlice, that took me back to my first posting ( on page 5 of the discussion, as Brovo Brovo). People should read the discussions on that APOD, then post to this one if they have things to say re today's pic which have not already been said.

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by geckzilla » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:59 pm

BillBixby wrote:People should read the discussions on that APOD, then post to this one if they have things to say re today's pic which have not already been said.
That...would require effort! Effort is hard. Effort is scary. Angry retorts are easy.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:47 pm

BillBixby wrote:
owlice wrote:Those who are unhappy with this APOD because it shows Earth, please go look at this APOD instead.
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Wow Owlice, that took me back to my first posting ( on page 5 of the discussion, as Brovo Brovo). People should read the discussions on that APOD, then post to this one if they have things to say re today's pic which have not already been said.

Bill
I went back to read what you wrote Bill (I wasn't on Asterisk on those days) and here's the link for others to follow as it is VERY much worth reading or rereading:
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... 00#p179476

And here is my response: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by logmark » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:49 pm

Having been raised un the U.P. in the 40's and 50's [also in Newberry] I have empathy for those poor folk huddled up der in Houghton trying to remember what da sky looks like in da middle of winter, aye? A couple of hundred inches of snow can addle da noggin. So forgiveness is perhaps in order, or at least a dose of patient understanding for our buried friends who are currently a bit obsessed with the white stuff.

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by Kurt H » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:17 pm

And here I was hoping to have some talk about the new supernova in M82 seen this morning. Ah well, there is always tomorrow.

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by geckzilla » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:23 pm

Kurt H wrote:And here I was hoping to have some talk about the new supernova in M82 seen this morning. Ah well, there is always tomorrow.
The editors put APODs together at least a night in advance so by the time the SN had been noticed this APOD was already ready to go. That said, APOD doesn't usually cover breaking astronomy news as quickly as other places. That's not really the function of the site but sometimes major events do get special APODs.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by owlice » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:10 pm

Supernova Gallery, just getting started.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by mtbdudex » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:39 am

You need to be a true Michigander to grasp all this, helps to watch this movie also for those who want the quick initiation.
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fwiw, for me the greatest snow in Michigan was the 1974 Thanksgiving weekend storm.....we spent that late Thanksgiving in Traverse city, I was 12.
Driving home it was clear/sunny for 20 miles, then started to snow, and snow, and snow......
Needless to say what normally was a 5 hour drive took 19 hours, and we got a record 19 inches!
http://www.freep.com/article/20140105/N ... now-storms
2:08 PM, January 5, 2014
Top 10 heaviest snow storms to hit Detroit
Here’s a look at the snowfall records from the National Weather Service:

1. April 6, 1886, 24.5 inches

2. December 1-2, 1974, 19.3 inches

3. March 4-5, 1900, 16.1 inches

4. February 28-March 1, 1900, 14.0 inches

5. December 18-19,1929, 13.8 inches

6. February 12-13 1894, 12.8 inches

7. February 19, 1908, 12.6 inches

8. January 31-February 1, 1881, 12.5 inches

9. February 9, 1911, 12.3 inches

10. March 3-4, 1895, 12.3 inches
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by Boomer12k » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:06 am

In our city, back then the snow was piled 18-20 or more feet, down town...that year saw really bad flooding...

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by DavidLeodis » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:07 pm

The "Paula Rocco" link brings up what is an advertisement for a restaurant. :? Was the link intentional or is it an error?

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by geckzilla » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:08 pm

It's a restaurant in upper Michigan. She is probably the owner or something.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by owlice » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:12 pm

I believe this image hangs in the restaurant.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by DavidLeodis » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:31 pm

Thanks geckzilla and owlice for your responses. :) I had thought they were likely but I was surprised that the link brought up what was publicity for a commercial business.

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by geckzilla » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:34 am

Interestingly, this photo received a lot of attention at Facebook. Not a single comment was about the fact that it lacked astronomical bearing and it got shared something like four times the usual amount. That's a lot of shares to people potentially not already following APOD already who may now become interested in astronomy. It's hard to tell exactly how effective it is but that's the idea behind it. A little insight into an outreach tactic and something to keep in mind the next time APOD features another image of this sort.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by Sa Ji Tario » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:13 pm

Wireman58 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:35 am
I fail to see what this has to do with the study of the stars!
Also, this pic looks like a fake as the photographer, from this perspective, would be standing in between high tension lines! :mrgreen:
Certainly they are telephone lines, one conductor for each telephone device

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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by neufer » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:33 pm

Sa Ji Tario wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:13 pm
Wireman58 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:35 am

this pic looks like a fake as the photographer, from this perspective, would be standing in between high tension lines! :mrgreen:
Certainly they are telephone lines, one conductor for each telephone device
  • Or rather: one insulator for each residential 240/120 V split-phase service drop:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_pole wrote:
Typical North American utility pole, showing hardware for a residential 240/120 V split-phase service drop: (A,B,C) 3-phase primary distribution wires, (D) neutral wire, (E) fuse cutout, (F) lightning arrestor, (G) single phase distribution transformer, (H) ground wire to transformer case, (J) "triplex" service drop cable carries secondary current to customer, (K) telephone and cable television cables. :arrow:

<<A utility pole is a column or post used to support overhead power lines and various other public utilities, such as electrical cable, fiber optic cable, and related equipment such as transformers and street lights. It can be referred to as a transmission pole, telephone pole, telecommunication pole, power pole, hydro pole, telegraph pole, or telegraph post, depending on its application. A Stobie pole is a multi-purpose pole made of two steel joists held apart by a slab of concrete in the middle, generally found in South Australia.

Electrical wires and cables are routed overhead on utility poles as an inexpensive way to keep them insulated from the ground and out of the way of people and vehicles. Utility poles can be made of wood, metal, concrete, or composites like fiberglass. They are used for two different types of power lines: subtransmission lines, which carry higher voltage power between substations, and distribution lines, which distribute lower voltage power to customers.

The first poles were used in 1843 by telegraph pioneer William Fothergill Cooke, who used them on a line along the Great Western Railway. Utility poles were first used in the mid-19th century in America with telegraph systems, starting with Samuel Morse, who attempted to bury a line between Baltimore and Washington, D.C. but moved it above ground when this system proved faulty. Today, underground distribution lines are increasingly used as an alternative to utility poles in residential neighborhoods, due to poles' perceived ugliness.
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Re: APOD: The Upper Michigan Blizzard of 1938 (2014 Jan 22)

Post by Chris Peterson » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:57 pm

neufer wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:33 pm
Sa Ji Tario wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:13 pm
Wireman58 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:35 am

this pic looks like a fake as the photographer, from this perspective, would be standing in between high tension lines! :mrgreen:
Certainly they are telephone lines, one conductor for each telephone device
  • Or rather: one insulator for each residential 240/120 V split-phase service drop:
Not in this old picture. Those are phone lines (probably with most serving party lines).
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