East of Antares (APOD 23 Jun 2006)

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:22 pm

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060623.html
Look at all these stars. It's hard to imagine that every one of these is a bonafide sun. How could anyone possibly get an accurate count of the billions of stars in the Milky Way?

Orin

Wadsworth · Post by **Wadsworth** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:53 pm

Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.

dougal · Post by **dougal** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:09 pm

To me the gestalt view I get is of a Dragon head breathing out black fire
when turning back over its left shoulder.

harry · Post by **harry** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:43 pm

Hello All

I'm going to start counting,,,,,,double check and make sure the count is right.

You never know someone may take one.

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info on the centre of the Milky Way Kid

Journey to the Center of the Galaxy
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040411.html

The Galactic Center Radio Arc
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050403.html

At the Center of the Milky Way
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051023.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/a ... 20111.html

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:13 am

here's some more interesting data about the Milky Way.

http://cassfos02.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/MW.html

Orin

harry · Post by **harry** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:18 am

Hello Orin
Nice
Thanks mate

I'm still amazed at the info we can get over the net.

I keep on reading and the more I read the less I know.

Sometimes I think my ideas are here one day gone the next.

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:21 pm

Wadsworth wrote:Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.

with twohundred fifty million stars cataloged; I bet they are numbered rather than named. Wonder if they made a map?
Orin

harry · Post by **harry** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:08 am

Hello

Anything with google I'm unable to search

Yes there is a map.

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:21 pm

harry wrote:Hello

Anything with google I'm unable to search

Yes there is a map.

Here's one!

http://members.aol.com/grewsomeco/map.htm

Orin

BMAONE23 · Post by **BMAONE23** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:55 pm

Orin,
I like the map

Haven't seen it before (and me being a Trek fan)

It would be interesting to see it with the Voyager updates. (including Borg occupied systems)

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:03 am

BMAONE23!
I've been a Trek fan forever; That was the first I saw of the map also. I found it surfing for a galactic map after Harry said there was one. There are probably more and better maps out there; I'm sure.
Orin

harry · Post by **harry** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:51 am

Hello All

I have been a tek fan before it started.

There was nother show way before it.

Trying to think.

Buck Rogers????????

This was early 1960.

Looking at the scenes now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are so funny.
Than our eyes were clued to the TV.

I remember dad saving for one year to buy a TV. These days are a dime a dozen.

This leads on to PLASMA TV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,smile

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:52 pm

Don't forget Flash Gordon! Do you remember Forbidden Planet; and The Day The World Stood Still. Ya Harry, I'm an old f--- also.
By the way here is another map that may be interesting.
http://www.ras.ucalgary.ca/CGPS/where/plan/
Orin

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:32 pm

http://www.solstation.com/stars/s10ly.htm

This is the part of the Milky Way that man will probably visit first if he can ever concur the time problem with space travel. The very nearest neighborhood.
Orin

harry · Post by **harry** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:00 am

Hello Orin

Smile,,,,,,,,,,,,,how old is the hill?

So you remember Flash Gordon.

Smile,,,,,,,,,,,,,look up Flesh Gordon its an erotic comedy.

orin stepanek · Post by **orin stepanek** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:44 pm

Wadsworth wrote:Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.

2Mass sounds like a life long project. Looking into this link shows that it is a worthwhile project with over 250,000,000 stars already categorized.
Orin

DavidLeodis · Post by **DavidLeodis** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:07 pm

I've just been looking at this APOD and I'm confused by something. The APOD title and in the explanation refer to 'East of Antares'. However, in the image in Johannes Schedler's website (brought up through the 'and expansive view' link) it refers to the image as being west of Antares. I've tried looking at constellation and star maps diagrams, but I'm still confused. The orientation of the APOD and the image in the website is the same (in Johannes website it states North is up but it unfortunately does not state which is East, as it could be reversed and so be on the left).

I would be grateful if somebody could inform me (and possibly explain) if the image shows the scene to the east or west of Antares. I could try contacting Johannes, but I thought I would ask the knowledgeable forum folk.

Thanks.

rigelan · Post by **rigelan** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:41 am

According to Kstars, it is 13 degrees directly east of Antares. (the width of your fist at arms length is around 10 degrees). So add an extra finger

It is in the constellation Ophiuchi. Seeing as the width of the picture is around 10 degrees, Just add another full screen to the side, and Antares should be in view.

Edit: that is of course, If they named the appropriate nebulas in the text.

Edit #2: That middle star in the triad is 44 Ophiuchi, and I believe up is north, left is east, right is west. The middle star is actually part of the constellation, but unfortunately, I cannot find any good maps either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ophi ... on_map.png

On the very bottom tip of the Constellation, there is a greek letter I cannot decipher. That is middle star of the triad.

rigelan · Post by **rigelan** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:15 am

. I cut the part of that png from wikipedia that corresponds to the APOD picture.

Qev · Post by **Qev** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:48 am

That would be Upsilon Ophiuchi, I'd guess. Astronomers, and scientists in general, are addicted to the Greek alphabet.

DavidLeodis · Post by **DavidLeodis** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:22 am

Thanks rigelan. Your help is much appreciated.

You're right Qev. They do like using the Greek alphabet.

rigelan · Post by **rigelan** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:07 pm

Yeah, I feel silly

I know most of the greek letters, that one just boggled me. It wasn't a familiar font of it I guess. Thanks. I'm glad it helped.