Comet McNaught viewing (APOD X Jan 2007)

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Comet McNaught viewing (APOD X Jan 2007)

Post by catk » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:24 pm

I have a question. The write-up about Comet McNaught (1/5/07) says that viewing is best at dawn in the eastern sky, but the photo was taken at dusk two days ago. Does that mean I can still view it at dusk in the western sky, since my eastern view is obstructed?

edited by makc to include following quote:
soupphysics wrote:It's been on APOD on January 5,9,13,15,17,18,19,20 and 22.

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Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:58 pm

Probably for the next day or two but then the comet will pass close to the sun and will wind up being viewed as brighter on the other side. you can find it here http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mpeg/ as it passes

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Post by iamlucky13 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:27 am

Space.com claims that estimates for the upcoming peak magnitude of the comet range from 2.1 all the way up to -8.8.

Could you imagine? A comet brighter than Venus! Even Hale-Bopp was only around -1.

Also, it will soon pass through SOHO's field of view, so expect updates from that project team to include information on this one.

I will definitely be paying attention to this one. I hope we get some good weather here in the NW to try to spot it, especially once it swings away from the glare of the sun. I've got my fingers crossed for a show.
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Post by orin stepanek » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:56 pm

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070105.html
Comet McNaught may be even brighter after rounding the sun. I can hardly wait. :)
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Post by orin stepanek » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:06 pm

I tried to view McNaught last night but all I could see was Venus. I thought maybe after it came around the sun there may be some good viewing but it sounds like the best viewing will be in the Southern hemisphere. I'think it will be too close to the sun for any more viewing right now. :cry:
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Post by cheech » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:08 am

i'm having trouble with reading that i can view the comet both at sunrise or sunset. which side of the sun is it on? i would like to get a look. i live at 90w 30n

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Post by Indigo_Sunrise » Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:21 pm

I'm not proficient at linking, but here is some good info on viewing Comet McNaught:

http://skytonight.com/observing/home/5089276.html

Hope that helps - and that the link works!
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Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:07 pm

today being the 12th, means it should be entering SOHO's field of view.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mpeg/
watch the LASCO C3 mpeg file. you will already notice it in the thumb.

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Post by Galactic Groove » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:03 pm

I think tonight is the last night for a decent view. And possibly tomorrow, the 13th, for a quick glance i'd presume. Any observations in the south are said to be short lived as it'll fade real fast.

For comet viewing...
http://skytonight.com/observing/home/5089276.html
Link provided by Indigo_Sunrise on another thread, thank you! :D

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Post by ta152h0 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:13 pm

Hopefully tonight the clouds will part and the haze will disappear. Is this thing ever come back or will disappear back into the Ooort cloud ? If that is where it came from . :D
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Post by iamlucky13 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:27 am

I saw it last night!

At 5, I dropped what I was in the middle of at work and wandered outside with binoculars in hand. Despite the haze, the sun glare, and the lights of Portland that I was looking through, I was able to spot it through the binoculars in about 30 seconds. It quickly became bright enough to see with the naked eye...even before Venus was visible, then slowly faded into the haze as it go closer to the horizon.

The comet fans in the southern hemisphere are in for quite a show. I'm jealous.
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Post by John Carswell » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:02 am

Would anyone have time and patience to explain to an uneducated amateur why the comet was visible at sunrise and sunset? I thought things had to be on one side of the sun or the other.
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Post by makc » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:12 am

My guess is that's because after morning sky is getting too bright, and fades out enough again only around the sunset.

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Post by soupphysics » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:29 am

Do we really need to see this commet almost every day on apod?

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Post by makc » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:12 pm

soupphysics wrote:Do we really need to see this commet almost every day on apod?
wadda ya mean

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Post by Galactic Groove » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:41 pm

soupphysics wrote:Do we really need to see this commet almost every day on apod?
It's not exactly a galaxy or nebula that'll be around for viewing for thousands or millions of years.......

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Re: McNaught

Post by iamlucky13 » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:52 pm

John Carswell wrote:Would anyone have time and patience to explain to an uneducated amateur why the comet was visible at sunrise and sunset? I thought things had to be on one side of the sun or the other.
For a second, I wanted to think the answer was almost obvious, but as I thought about it, I'm not sure. If it's visible just before sunrise, it must precede the sun's arc through the sky. If it's visible just after sunset, it must follow the sun's arc through the sky, correct? Perhaps in actuallity the tilt and curvature of the earth come into play here?

Galactic Groove wrote:It's not exactly a galaxy or nebula that'll be around for viewing for thousands or millions of years.......
It's also something a very large number of astro-fans are currently very interested in. The editors are responding to popular sentiment. I personally am enjoying the pictures, but I guess the novelty wears off faster for some than others.
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Post by FreebirdsWB » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:50 pm

The answer to seeing it in AM and PM is the turning of the earth.

Compare the morning and evening and imagine the earth spinning.

Sorry, I know that's not a great explanation. Probably too simplistic. Another way to think about it is this... the comet is neither leading nor trailing the sun... it's off to the side.

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Post by soupphysics » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:56 am

Galactic Groove wrote:
soupphysics wrote:Do we really need to see this commet almost every day on apod?
It's not exactly a galaxy or nebula that'll be around for viewing for thousands or millions of years.......
I guess you are right. I just thought it was overdone a little, since they are all pretty much the exact same.

It was on apod on January 5, 9, 13 and 15.

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Post by BMAONE23 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:36 pm

The stars rotate around polar north so, depending on your latitude, ther will appear to rotate also with respect to their orientation. If you watch tonight, you will notice in the east that the Pleades cluster rises first, followed by the Taurus constellation, then Orion rises on his back. this is for northern hemisphere observers at approx N37-38deg lat. Then, as they set, ther all set together with Orion standing, not lying down.

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Post by BMAONE23 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:32 pm

Something similar happens with respect to Venus. As the morning star, when Venus rises, it is located more southerly with respect to the area on the horizon where the sun rises. When Venus is the evening star, like now, it sets is a more southerly spot on the horizon than the sun does. Venus is always viewed to be more southerly on the horizon than the sun.

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Post by Orca » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:55 pm

"Garrr," says I, in a pirate's voice; I never did catch it. We had a few clear days here, but they were the last few where the comet was visible...but just barely above the horizon. Couldn't see it without an extensive trip to find a clear hilltop or some such location.

I'll have to settle for APOD images on my desktop. :wink:

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Post by Andy Wade » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:58 pm

Orca wrote:"Garrr," says I, in a pirate's voice; I never did catch it. We had a few clear days here, but they were the last few where the comet was visible...but just barely above the horizon. Couldn't see it without an extensive trip to find a clear hilltop or some such location.

I'll have to settle for APOD images on my desktop. :wink:
Me too. Went right up on T'moortops an'all. It were a reight downer.
It pees it down ere for two weeks, then the first night it were clear, the bloomin' thing had set on us. bu99er. :cry:

On second thoughts, a translation might be useful...

I also had a similar experience. I visited the highest hill on the moorland area near to where I live, to try and view this comet, and I was rather disappointed.
I'm afraid that the weather here of late has been rather inclement with high levels of precipitation and heavy cloud laden skies and high winds for the past fortnight. And when the weather finally cleared, I discovered that this comet had unfortunately set on Britain.
How sad. :cry:
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Post by soupphysics » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:45 am

soupphysics wrote:
Galactic Groove wrote:
soupphysics wrote:Do we really need to see this commet almost every day on apod?
It's not exactly a galaxy or nebula that'll be around for viewing for thousands or millions of years.......
I guess you are right. I just thought it was overdone a little, since they are all pretty much the exact same.

It was on apod on January 5, 9, 13 and 15.
And now again on Jan 17 and 18. The Jan 17 pic atleast was different, since it was from space. The rest of them are the exact same. You've seen one, you've seen all 5 of them.

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Nice view from sydney

Post by jacksonpd » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:35 am

On tuesday night I went to a hillside park in suburban sydney for an excellent view of the comet. There were about 80 - 100 people in the park watching it.
It seemed bigger than venus though not a sharp.

I tried to impress upon my kids how good this was but they just wanted to play on the swings. :roll:

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