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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:18 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.
Coral reefs are dying off mostly because of Global Warming.
(New shell generation, however, is slowed by ocean acidification.)

+9 Gigatons/yr = Human carbon production
-3 Gigatons/yr = Terrestrial Net carbon uptake
-2 Gigatons/yr = Oceanic Net carbon uptake
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+4 Gigatons/yr = Carbon into atmosphere
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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:12 pm

neufer wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:18 pm
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Isn't the Earth's biggest carbon sink diffusion into the global ocean? This slows the increase in atmospheric CO2, but with the horrible cost of ocean acidification, killing marine organisms. Coral reefs are dying off in many places.
Coral reefs are dying off mostly because of Global Warming.
(New shell generation, however, is slowed by ocean acidification.)

+9 Gigatons/yr = Human carbon production
-3 Gigatons/yr = Terrestrial Net carbon uptake
-2 Gigatons/yr = Oceanic Net carbon uptake
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+4 Gigatons/yr = Carbon into atmosphere
Thanks sincerely Art. Nice graphic and quantifying of the problem.

The cause is anthropomorphic global warming, these are some effects:
  • Higher measured global average temperatures (both land and sea)
    Retreating global annual ice coverage (land and sea)
    Increase in intensity/frequency of floods/storms/droughts
    Increase in frequency of crop reductions/failures
    Rising sea levels, flooding of coastal areas
    Widespread coral reef loss
    Relocation of plants and animals in response to climate change
    Acceleration of extinction rate
I'm sure that my quick off the top list is incomplete. Can you think of more?
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Re: Weather!

Post by geckzilla » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:51 am

More frequent heatwaves with more extreme highs. These are going to be especially deadly to people who have no access to air conditioning.
Fewer cold snaps with higher lows...can you hear the mosquitoes buzzing?
Mass migration of people from places where resource availability becomes unstable and conflicts break out (ask our military about this one)
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:19 am

geckzilla wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:51 am

Mass migration of people from places where resource availability
becomes unstable and conflicts break out (ask our military about this one)

Our future grandchildren hate us.
Well...that's a relief, at least; I don't expect to have anymore grandchildren.
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Post by orin stepanek » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:38 am

I hate the cold! We had 1 nice day and now it's cold again! :x Of Coarse in the Summertime, I'll hate the heat! :mrgreen: I'm a fair weather person! 8-) I keep saying Spring is near.
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:38 am

I hate the cold! We had 1 nice day and now it's cold again! :x Of Coarse in the Summertime, I'll hate the heat! :mrgreen:
I'm a fair weather person! 8-) I keep saying Spring is near.
Climate change is all about unfair weather.

Without a frozen Arctic Ocean to maintain the polar vortex:
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
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Re: Weather!

Post by BDanielMayfield » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:17 am

neufer wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
Part of why we moved to Idaho, your points 2 & 3. And as for point 1, even though we live less than a 2 hour drive from Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks and have been here for the better part of 2 winters we have yet to see a real blizzard. I'm sure that will change at some point, but so far the winters haven't been near as bad as people have warned us about.

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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:59 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:17 am
neufer wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:56 pm
  • 1) Cold blizzards will be more intense
    2) Summer heat waves & droughts will be more intense
    3) Hurricanes & flooding will be more intense.
Part of why we moved to Idaho, your points 2 & 3. And as for point 1, even though we live less than a 2 hour drive from Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks and have been here for the better part of 2 winters we have yet to see a real blizzard. I'm sure that will change at some point, but so far the winters haven't been near as bad as people have warned us about.

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Here in Nebraska I can remember a few winters with intense winters with lots of deep drifts! But more with 2 to 6 inches of snow for the whole winter! Thing is there seems to be more killer storms with more intensity; Hurricanes; Floods; Tornado's; etc; etc! All probably due to Global warming; Some scientists Think the sun is entering a 50 year cooling cycle; ( ?) ! Whatever; probably because on mt age and health; doesn't affect
me as much as mt Children and Grandchildren! So I hope Science can fix the mess we are in! :shock:
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Post by neufer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:46 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:59 pm

I hope Science can fix the mess we are in! :shock:
Science is pretty good at figuring out the mess we are in.

Before the current administration I was relatively confident that technology could probably resolve the mess we are in... but not any more :!:
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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:23 pm

Snow; snow; go away; I don't like you anyway! :brr: :thumb_down:
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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:06 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
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Snow; snow; go away; I don't like you anyway! :brr: :thumb_down:
Snow, snow, keep on falling! Nothing beats a day on snowshoes! (And no amount of winter and spring snow is worse than a summer of wildfires.)
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Re: Weather!

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Post by Ann » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:43 pm

Winter aconites in the old city cemetery in Malmö.
Photo: Johan Nilsson/TT.
Yesterday the midday temperature in Malmö was almost 14 oC.

We have had extremely little snow here so far this winter, and rarely freezing temperatures. Winter aconites and snowdrops are in full bloom.

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:02 pm

Ann wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:43 pm

Yesterday the midday temperature in Malmö was almost 14 oC.

We have had extremely little snow here so far this winter, and rarely freezing temperatures. Winter aconites and snowdrops are in full bloom.
  • You need to take a nice Mediterranean holiday, Ann :!:
https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/506425071.html wrote: CRETE, Greece (NBC/RTV/NEA TV CRETE) — Flood waters in Greece claimed the life of one farmer and struck down a 111-year-old bridge on the island of Crete Monday: Wed 3:35 AM, Feb 27, 2019

<<During a live broadcast in Greece, residents screamed as they watched the local landmark stone bridge collapse as overflowing river flood waters smashed into it. Other bridges and buildings on the island were damaged.

Streets and homes were flooded and toppled trees damaged cars. Authorities found the body of the 61-year-old farmer and father of five on the banks of the river. They had been searching for him after his car was swept by floods.>>


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Post by orin stepanek » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:18 pm

Chris: I don't like the heat of Summer either; nor the forest fires! But i believe that fire control can be accomplished by selective planting to a large degree! PS! To each his own! I'm glad you like snow! 8-)
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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:26 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:18 pm
Chris: I don't like the heat of Summer either; nor the forest fires! But i believe that fire control can be accomplished by selective planting to a large degree! PS! To each his own! I'm glad you like snow! 8-)
You can't selectively plant to control wildfires, though. Not in thousands of square miles of wilderness. The best protection against such fires is an absence of dry fuel, which means good snowpack and lots of spring snow.
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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:34 pm

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orin stepanek wrote:
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Chris: I don't like the heat of Summer either; nor the forest fires!

But i believe that fire control can be accomplished by selective planting to a large degree!
It's going to work out well.
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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:03 pm

I just give my opinion and nothing more! I don't claim to have the answers! :shock: :p:
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Post by orin stepanek » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:56 am

Ann wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:43 pm
Winter aconites in the old city cemetery in Malmö.
Photo: Johan Nilsson/TT.
Yesterday the midday temperature in Malmö was almost 14 oC.

We have had extremely little snow here so far this winter, and rarely freezing temperatures. Winter aconites and snowdrops are in full bloom.

Ann
I'd send you some of our snow but refrigeration is too costly! :shock: :no: :brr:
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Re: Weather!

Post by Ann » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:00 am

Our weather report says that it will get colder and colder in southernmost Sweden over the next weeks. Maybe we, too, will get snow in mid-March.

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Re: Weather!

Post by neufer » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:33 pm

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144611/an-unusually-warm-february-in-the-united-kingdom wrote:
An Unusually Warm February in the United Kingdom
Story by Kasha Patel. NASA Earth Observatory Earth Observatory
<<Unseasonably warm temperatures swept across the United Kingdom and much of Europe in February 2019. The month started with snow and freezing temperatures in the United Kingdom, but provisional statistics from the UK Met Office indicate February 2019 was the second warmest February on record for the country. England, Scotland, and Wales all recorded their warmest meteorological winter days and hottest February days since record-keeping began in 1910.

:arrow: The maps on this page show land surface temperature anomalies for February 11-25, 2019. Reds and oranges depict areas that were hotter than average for the same two-week period from 2000-2012; blues were colder than average. White pixels were normal, and gray pixels did not have enough data, most likely due to excessive cloud cover. This temperature anomaly map is based on data from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra satellite.

Note that the map depicts land surface temperatures (LSTs), not air temperatures. LSTs reflect how hot the surface of the Earth would feel to the touch and can sometimes be significantly hotter or cooler than air temperatures.

The high temperatures were the product of a large area of high pressure that stalled and trapped warm air over Europe. The clear, dry conditions allowed more sunshine to warm the ground. (February 2019 was the second sunniest on record for the United Kingdom as a whole.) The high-pressure system also drew in warm air from the North Atlantic near the Canary Islands. While the UK was experiencing record-breaking warmth, increased temperatures spread across central and eastern Europe—so much that spring barley harvesting may start early. Forecasters say the weather over central Europe will be warmer and drier-than-normal through May.>>
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Re: Weather!

Post by Ann » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:48 pm

Rain, rain, rain. Photo: SVT.
Right now our weather looks like this. And it's going to stay this way for at least a week.

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Re: Weather!

Post by Chris Peterson » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:15 am

Just back from a day of mushing. One more reason to keep winter going a bit longer!
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Re: Weather!

Post by orin stepanek » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:02 pm

We got about 10" inches of snow overnight; real fine powder! (Hope the wind doesn't pick up or we will get a good blizzard); anyway, I cleaned the walk and drive with my little snowblower! Sure is a chore for this old man! Chris; my friend, when I was younger I liked the snow also, but no more! I'm happy looking at the snow out of mt window! :wink:
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