Light as a Singularity in space-time/space & propagation of sound.

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Post by geckzilla » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:24 pm

Yes, though it is mildly amusing, I think it's about time to pull the plug.
Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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Post by rstevenson » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:03 pm

Why did I just hear Ma & Pa Kettle while I was reading that, Bruce? I suppose a bot could find and review those old movies, but they'd likely make it insane. Come to think of it, they may have made some humans insane too.

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Post by BDanielMayfield » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:16 am

rstevenson wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:03 pm
Why did I just hear Ma & Pa Kettle while I was reading that, Bruce? I suppose a bot could find and review those old movies, but they'd likely make it insane. Come to think of it, they may have made some humans insane too.

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Post by neufer » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 am

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:16 am
rstevenson wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:03 pm

Why did I just hear Ma & Pa Kettle while I was reading that, Bruce? I suppose a bot could find and review those old movies, but they'd likely make it insane. Come to think of it, they may have made some humans insane too.
Maybe it was a bad tactic, but I'm attempting to illicit a response from acap
that can settle the question of he/she/it being a real person or not.
  • You suspect acap of being a plurality?
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Post by BDanielMayfield » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 am

neufer wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 am
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:16 am
rstevenson wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:03 pm

Why did I just hear Ma & Pa Kettle while I was reading that, Bruce? I suppose a bot could find and review those old movies, but they'd likely make it insane. Come to think of it, they may have made some humans insane too.
Maybe it was a bad tactic, but I'm attempting to illicit a response from acap
that can settle the question of he/she/it being a real person or not.
  • You suspect acap of being a plurality?
No. Intelligent people have been engaging acap in deep discussion, and yet one of the moderators has raised the possibility that acap is not a person, and to the point of possibly 'pulling the plug.' So either acap is a human or its an it. My strong suspicion is that acap is a real person. It would be good for her or him to lay such doubts to rest.
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Post by neufer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:39 am

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 am

My strong suspicion is that acap is a real person.
The fact that acap seems to respond to my own posts with total bewilderment would support that idea.
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Post by geckzilla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:20 am

It doesn't really respond to anything in particular, though. It just kind of darts around. My suspicion is that it's some kind of neural network type simulation with some physics and philosophy text coming from either books or other forums or something like that.
Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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Post by rstevenson » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:54 pm

neufer wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:39 am
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 am

My strong suspicion is that acap is a real person.
The fact that acap seems to respond to my own posts with total bewilderment would support that idea.
I often respond to your posts with total bewilderment, Art. Yet I'm sure I'm a real person.;-)

Rob (who may not be the best judge of what is real or what is a person)

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Post by neufer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:59 pm

rstevenson wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:54 pm
neufer wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:39 am
BDanielMayfield wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 am

My strong suspicion is that acap is a real person.
The fact that acap seems to respond to my own posts with total bewilderment would support that idea.
I often respond to your posts with total bewilderment, Art. Yet I'm sure I'm a real person.;-)
That was precisely my point, Rob(ot?).

A bot would not recognize my responses as being somewhat crazy & incomprehensible and would respond as it does to anyone else.
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Post by rstevenson » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:09 pm

neufer wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:59 pm
rstevenson wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:54 pm
neufer wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:39 am

The fact that acap seems to respond to my own posts with total bewilderment would support that idea.
I often respond to your posts with total bewilderment, Art. Yet I'm sure I'm a real person.;-)
That was precisely my point, Rob(ot?).
Oops! I was be-bewildered I see.

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Post by acap » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:12 am

What is this

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Post by neufer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:09 pm


acap wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:12 am

What is this
A pronoun :?:
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Post by BDanielMayfield » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:06 pm

What is acap :?:
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Post by neufer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:33 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:06 pm

What is acap :?:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_College_of_Applied_Psychology wrote:
<<The Australian College of Applied Psychology (ACAP) is a registered training organisation and higher education provider that specialises in teaching courses in psychology, counselling, coaching, case management and people management. The courses are offered at three award levels: Vocational Education and Training (VET), Undergraduate and Postgraduate. ACAP is accredited by the Psychotherapy and Counselling Federation of Australia (PACFA) and conditionally accredited by the Australian Psychology Accreditation Council (APAC). ACAP has been in operation since 1983 and has campuses in four cities, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide.>>
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Post by geckzilla » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:09 pm

Another oddly vague response to nothing in particular, even though the accusations are quite clear and targeted at it.
Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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Post by acap » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 am

Anil Chadha(ac) for New Delhi India

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Post by acap » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:25 am

Anil Chadha (acap) is my name. I am from New Delhi(INDIA)

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Post by neufer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:53 pm

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Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:25 am

Anil Chadha (acap) is my name. I am from New Delhi(INDIA)
Hi, Anil,

The powers that be are always a little nervous about newbies who begin by spouting off non standard concepts. Most of us struggle to get our minds around the flood of new concepts coming from professional astronomers. What got you interested in astronomy?
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Post by acap » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:23 pm

I got into this from my childhood. I am 54 years old and have been reading on astrophysics and take it as a hobby. I am a Civil Engineer by profession and work as a consultant. So maths & science interests me.

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Post by BDanielMayfield » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:02 pm

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Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:23 pm
I got into this from my childhood. I am 54 years old and have been reading on astrophysics and take it as a hobby. I am a Civil Engineer by profession and work as a consultant. So maths & science interests me.
Very nice to know you're real, and to make your acquaintance, in a digital sort of way.

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Post by acap » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:33 pm

Thanks indeed to all of you to connect with me. I look forward to excellent discussions with you all.

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Post by geckzilla » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:20 pm

neufer wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:53 pm
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:25 am

Anil Chadha (acap) is my name. I am from New Delhi(INDIA)
Hi, Anil,

The powers that be are always a little nervous about newbies who begin by spouting off non standard concepts. Most of us struggle to get our minds around the flood of new concepts coming from professional astronomers. What got you interested in astronomy?
It's not the non-standard concepts that bother me, it's the non-standard way of replying. It's also that there are definitely many bots visiting the forum, and that they are getting more and more sophisticated. There is an overlap in the way a bot behaves and the way a human with English second (or third, or fourth, etc) language behaves. If I can't tell, then I have to ask in a way that a bot would probably not understand and not be able to accidentally answer correctly (not a simple yes/no question) but a human should be able to.

So yeah, you can attribute it to something simple like nervousness if you'd like, but there is a lot more to it than that. I wouldn't call it nervousness at all.
Just call me "geck" because "zilla" is like a last name.

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Post by neufer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:13 pm

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Post by acap » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:15 am

neufer wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:05 pm
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:47 am

I would like to know more what exactly mathematics / physics say about singularities here.
"You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. There's uh, singularity-kabobs, singularity creole, singularity gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple singularities, lemon singularities, coconut singularities, pepper singularities, singularity soup, singularity stew, singularity salad, singularities and potatoes, singularity burger, singularity sandwich..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity wrote:
Natural sciences Mathematics
  • Mathematical singularity, a point at which a given mathematical object is not defined or not "well-behaved", for example infinite or not differentiable
Complex analysis Geometry
J Krishnamurthy spoke of complete attention - a state in which there is no gap between the observer and the observed. The quality of attention is so complete that there is no gap between the observed & the observed. The observed is equal to the observe! This wipes out differences, conflict etc and brings in love, compassion etc.
Can we talk of such state a sort of singularity?