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APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:06 am
by APOD Robot
Image Lightning on Jupiter

Explanation: Does lightning occur only on Earth? No. Spacecraft in our Solar System have detected lightning on other planets, including Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, and lightning is likely on Venus, Uranus, and Neptune. Lightning is a sudden rush of electrically charged particles from one location to another. On Earth, drafts of colliding ice and water droplets usually create lightning-generating charge separation, but what happens on Jupiter? Images and data from NASA's Jupiter-orbiting Juno spacecraft bolster previous speculation that Jovian lightning is also created in clouds containing water and ice. In the featured Juno photograph, an optical flash was captured in a large cloud vortex near Jupiter's north pole. During the next few months, Juno will perform several close sweeps over Jupiter's night side, likely allowing the robotic probe to capture more data and images of Jovian lightning.

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Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:41 am
by alex555
In this image, you can even see the light from the lightning scattering through the cloud. Considering the distance at which Juno is, it is really impressive and it says a lot about the intensity of the lightning below.

Alex

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am
by VictorBorun
I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:18 am
by Ann
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
You and me both, Victor.

Ann

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:26 am
by Astronut
Are there estimates of the water content in the Jovian atmosphere? Does it vary?

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:31 pm
by guest again
Green lightning, blue thunder?

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm
by Chris Peterson
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:15 pm
by De58te
Just a thought of why the lightning is green instead of electrical white. On Earth Auroras are usually photographed green and are from Solar winds descending the magnetic poles. Jupiter's magnetic fields are ten times stronger than Earth. And this is near Jupiter's north pole. Could this wide green circle actually be an aurora instead of a narrow lightning bolt?

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:32 pm
by VictorBorun
guest again wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:31 pm Green lightning, blue thunder?
if this lightning was thick hot plasma channel, then it should be the colour of blue giants: bluish

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:35 pm
by VictorBorun
De58te wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:15 pm Just a thought of why the lightning is green instead of electrical white. On Earth Auroras are usually photographed green and are from Solar winds descending the magnetic poles. Jupiter's magnetic fields are ten times stronger than Earth. And this is near Jupiter's north pole. Could this wide green circle actually be an aurora instead of a narrow lightning bolt?
if this lightning was a thin plasma fluorescence, then it should be bleak and invisible within low Sun's dusk

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
by VictorBorun
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:48 pm
by Chris Peterson
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:13 am I wonder why the flash looks yellow-green (lime)
Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?
Not at all. It may have only been caught by the green channel.

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:22 pm
by Ann
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:48 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
Chris Peterson wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:41 pm

Keep in mind that JunoCam doesn't take a "snapshot", but has its sensor readout synchronized with the spacecraft rotation. So it takes about a minute to collect a single image (there are four filters) as one axis is swept out. What that means is that transient events like lightning may not be caught in each band. We'd need to go back and look at the source data (either the truly raw data, with the image bands, or the output of the first pass processing which generates something more like a spatially accurate image) to see which channels actually recorded the flash.
so they chose a colour for the flash at random? Then why lime? To suggest bluish source filtered by yellow clouds ?
Not at all. It may have only been caught by the green channel.
Thanks, Chris. That makes sense.

Ann

Re: APOD: Lightning on Jupiter (2023 Jun 25)

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:19 pm
by orin stepanek
juplight_gal.jpg
Night lights on jupiter!

little dog in middle a lot like my dog! 8-)