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Post by APOD Robot » Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:10 am

Image Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of the Universe

Explanation: What color is the universe? More precisely, if the entire sky were smeared out, what color would the final mix be? This whimsical question came up when trying to determine what stars are commonplace in nearby galaxies. The answer, depicted here, is a conditionally perceived shade of beige. In computer parlance: #FFF8E7. To determine this, astronomers computationally averaged the light emitted by one of the larger samples of galaxies analyzed: the 200,000 galaxies of the 2dF Galaxy Redshift Survey. The resulting cosmic spectrum has some emission in all parts of the electromagnetic spectrum, but a single perceived composite color. This color has become much less blue over the past 10 billion years, indicating that redder stars are becoming more prevalent. In a contest to better name the color, notable entries included skyvory, univeige, and the winner: cosmic latte.

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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by Ann » Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:16 am

Yes, the overall color of the Universe today is certainly something like Cosmic Latte, ███. In the dawn of time, however, the color of the Universe may have been something like this, ███.

Why the change? Consider the JWST picture of starforming region NGC 602 in the Small Magellanic Cloud:


Look at the central cluster (which is slightly to the left of center in this image). You can make out a few bright stars there, perhaps ten. But look at the bee swarm of smaller stars surrounding the bright luminaries!

The big stars in the NGC 602 cluster are blue and bright. The small stars are, typically, red and faint. But the blue stars will die in a few million years: Death will come in just a handful of million years to the most massive blue stars, whereas the modest blue A-type stars will live for, perhaps, a few hundred million years at best.

But the red stars will hang on. The smaller they are, the longer they will last. The red stars are keepers. The blue stars are goners.

Every episode of star formation will create more small red stars than big blue stars. When a star cluster is newborn, the relatively few blue stars will outshine the the large numbers of red stars, because the blue stars are so much brighter.


But when the blue stars are gone, only the red stars remain. And the light of red stars, while not red, is certainly yellow. Because, yes, the "red" stars are yellow or yellow-orange, whereas our Sun is white or just a tad yellow-white.

The Universe used to be dominated by small starbursting galaxies shining brightly with blue light:


But over billions of years, huge populations of yellow stars have been built up, leading to galaxies like these:


There is a fun comparison between what the Milky Way looks like today and what it may have looked like 10 billion years ago:



I must say that I'm critical of the portrait of present-day Milky Way, because I think that we see far too much red hydrogen alpha here. In most Milky Way photos, we don't see much hydrogen alpha at all. Here is an example of what the Milky Way often looks like in photographs:


I should add that I really think that today's Milky Way is a fine example of Cosmic Latte! ☕️


So people get gray hair when they grow old. Star clusters and galaxies grow yellow.

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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by Astronymus » Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:00 am

I'm pretty sure the Lamy Al-Star Special Edition called "cosmic" was also an attempt to match this color. The connection was never officially announced though.

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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by Quae » Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:52 am

The </title> end tag was missing from the discussed web page when accessed just now via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, which makes the page look completely empty in Mozilla Firefox 133, Google Chrome 131, and Microsoft Edge 131. Curiously, the </title> tag *is* present when accessing the page via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap241201.html instead.

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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by wilddouglascounty » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:29 pm

Wow! That matches the walls of my living room almost exactly! A little alabaster base with some yellow tint; little did I know that it matches the entire universe!

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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by florid_snow » Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:07 pm

I double-checked the original paper to be sure, they did get this color by "de-redshifting" which I think is interesting but slightly different from what I was imagining. So cosmic latte is the average color of a galaxy as it appears to it's inhabitants, not technically the average color of all the light from all galaxies shining on us, which would probably be much redder if you don't de-redshift?

"We construct our ‘cosmic spectra’ in redshift slices z → z + ∆z by applying an instrument response correction, de-redshifting to the rest frame and summing up all the Quality ≥ 3 spectra in the interval ∆z." Baldry et al. 2002

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Post by RJN » Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:36 pm

Quae wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:52 am The </title> end tag was missing from the discussed web page when accessed just now via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, which makes the page look completely empty in Mozilla Firefox 133, Google Chrome 131, and Microsoft Edge 131. Curiously, the </title> tag *is* present when accessing the page via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap241201.html instead.
Thanks, Quae. My bad. That HTML error has now been fixed. Our apologies. - RJN

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Post by AVAO » Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:57 pm

RJN wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:36 pm
Quae wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:52 am The </title> end tag was missing from the discussed web page when accessed just now via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, which makes the page look completely empty in Mozilla Firefox 133, Google Chrome 131, and Microsoft Edge 131. Curiously, the </title> tag *is* present when accessing the page via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap241201.html instead.
Thanks, Quae. My bad. That HTML error has now been fixed. Our apologies. - RJN

... unfortunately the site still doesn't work...
neither https://apod.nasa.gov/apod nor https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:19 pm

AVAO wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:57 pm
RJN wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:36 pm
Quae wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:52 am The </title> end tag was missing from the discussed web page when accessed just now via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, which makes the page look completely empty in Mozilla Firefox 133, Google Chrome 131, and Microsoft Edge 131. Curiously, the </title> tag *is* present when accessing the page via https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap241201.html instead.
Thanks, Quae. My bad. That HTML error has now been fixed. Our apologies. - RJN

... unfortunately the site still doesn't work...
neither https://apod.nasa.gov/apod nor https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Works for me. Maybe you need to clear your browser cache or do a clean page reload (SHIFT-refresh in most browsers)?
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Post by Christian G. » Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:52 pm

I can now say that M66 has nice tones of "cosmic latte"!
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Re: APOD: Cosmic Latte: The Average Color of... (2024 Dec 01)

Post by johnnydeep » Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:58 pm

And in a few quadrillion years, if not sooner, the average color of the universe will be █, just like it was before the Big Bang. 😊

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Post by wild bill 99 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:32 am

I brought the page up 3 times in the morning, seeing nothing. This evening I checked again, still nothing. Then I scrolled down to see if there was anything besides a blank rectangle, only to realize it was the PoD. Perhaps a browser in dark mode would have helped.

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Post by Cousin Ricky » Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:59 am

I wonder if they took gamma into account. The color systems used on computers are usually non-linear, and I would think that the scientists’ color data are linear.