South of Orion, Star has dark spot (A I) (APOD 03 Apr 2008)

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South of Orion, Star has dark spot (A I) (APOD 03 Apr 2008)

Post by neufer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:30 pm

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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080403.html
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. Mary Shelley : _The Last Man_ CHAPTER V.
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On every leaf, on every small division of the universe,
(as on the hyacinth A I is engraved)
was imprinted the talisman of my existence--
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The hyacinth bewrays the doleful `A I,
And culls the tribute of Apollo's sigh.
Still on its bloom the mournful flower retains
The lovely blue that dyed the stripling's veins.'
. --- Camoens: Lusiad, ix.
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http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/h/hyawil43.html
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<<This is the 'fair-hair'd hyacinth' of Ben Jonson, a name alluding to
the old myth, for tradition associates the flower with the Hyacinth of
the Ancients, the flower of grief and mourning, so Linnaeus first
called it Hyacinthus. Hyacinthus was a charming and handsome Spartan
youth, loved by both Apollo and Zephyrus. Hyacinthus preferred the Sun-
God to the God of the West, who sought to be revenged. One day, when
Apollo was playing quoits with the youth, a quoit that he threw was
blown by Zephyrus out of its proper course and it struck and killed
Hyacinthus. Apollo, stricken with grief, raised from his blood a
purple flower on which the letters 'AI, AI,' were traced, so that the
cry of woe might for evermore have existence on the earth. As our
English variety of Hyacinth had no trace of these mystic letters, our
older botanists called it Hyacinthus nonscriptus, or 'not written on.'
A later generic name, Agraphis, is of similar meaning, being a
compound of two Greek words, meaning 'not to mark.'>>
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<<The reader not acquanted with professor Maryn's notes upon Virgil,
should here be informed, that the species of red lily, called the
martagon or Turk's-cap, has been proved by that writer, at least to
our satisfaction, to be the real ancient hyacinth, into which the
youth of that name was turned by Apollo. The hyacinth, commonly so
called, has nothing to show for its being the ancient one, which
should be of a blood colour, and was said to be inscribed with the
Greek exclamation of sorrow AI, AI. Now, we were struck with the sort
of literal black marks with which the Turk's-cap is speckled, and on
reading the professor's notes, and turning to the flower again, we
could plainly see, that with some allowance, quite pardonable in a
superstition, the marks might now and then fall together, so as to
indicate those characters.
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. 'Now tell your story, Hyacinth; and show
. AI, AI the more amidst your sanguine woe.'
. - [Greek lines from Moschus]
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South of Orion - Star has a dark spot (APOD 03 Apr 2008)

Post by joewalker7 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:40 am

The bright star just below the blue area on the photo has a dark spot that seems to be regularly shaped. Does anyone know if it is the shadow of a space craft? Thanks

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Re: 3-Apr-08 APOD - South of Orion - Star has a dark spot

Post by neufer » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:25 am

joewalker7 wrote:The bright star just below the blue area on the photo has a dark spot that seems to be regularly shaped. Does anyone know if it is the shadow of a space craft? Thanks
Looks like it could be the Space Shuttle: :wink:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000302.html
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Post by Qev » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:18 am

If it's the spot on the photo I think you're referring to (the bright white blob below and left of center), the dark spot is an opaque clump of gas in front of a bright nebula.
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Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:02 pm

Looks a little like a Kilngon Battlecruiser (Bird of Prey?) to me Especially in the second larger image

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Post by kovil » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:15 am

It looks like a 'hole' in the clouds
not a dark cloud in front of a light cloud,
especially the way the wisps curl into the darkness,
indicating they are in front of the darkness,
not the other way around.

These astronomers know not what they see.
Typical of mainstream analysis.


this is the image i was referring to

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000302.html
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Post by Qev » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:08 am

It's almost certainly an opaque cloud, rather than a hole (despite appearances). I know for years, I'd look at pictures of nebulae and think the dark regions were 'empty space' and not dark foreground clouds. But, if it were a hole, you'd see something through it.
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Post by harry » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:59 am

Hello All

I had these in the computer. Here are some of the links.
Some of the parts are explained.
Fantastic images from APOD

South of Orion
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080403.html

NGC 1999: Reflection Nebula in Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000302.html

M78 and Reflecting Dust Clouds in Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080318.html

Orion's Horsehead Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080221.html

X-ray Stars of Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071006.html


The Horsehead Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070527.html


LDN 1622: Dark Nebula in Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070511.html

Bullet Pillars in Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070326.html
This a fantastic image

Flame Nebula Close-Up
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070202.html


Orion's Cradle
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070125.html

The Orion Deep Field
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070106.html

M42: Wisps of the Orion Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061120.html

An Orion Deep Field
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061015.html

Spitzer's Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060818.html

Barnard's Loop around the Horsehead Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060417.html

Wisps Surrounding the Horsehead Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060221.html
A deep exposure shows that the dark familiar shaped indentation

LL Ori and the Orion Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060120.html

Reflections on the Horsehead Nebula
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051130.html

Barnard's Loop Around Orion
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050420.html
Why is the belt of Orion surrounded by a bubble?
Harry : Smile and live another day.

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