APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

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APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby APOD Robot » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:10 am

Image Juno Mission Trailer

Explanation: What will NASA's Juno spacecraft find when it reaches Jupiter next Monday? Very little, if Juno does not survive Jupiter Orbit Insertion, a complex series of operations in an unknown environment just above Jupiter's cloud tops. If successful, as explained in the featured video, Juno will swoop around Jupiter, passing closer than any previous spacecraft. The goal is to decelerate, enter into a highly elliptical orbit, and begin two years of science operations. Juno's science mission objectives include mapping Jupiter's deep structure, determining how much water is in Jupiter's atmosphere, and exploring Jupiter's powerful magnetic field and how it creates auroras around Jupiter's poles. These lessons hold promise to help humanity better understand the history of our Solar System and the dynamics of our Earth. Juno is powered predominantly by three large solar panels, each measuring a side of small truck. Launched in 2011, Juno's planned mission will take it around the Jovian giant 37 times, after which, to avoid contaminating Europa with microbes, it will be directed to dive into Jupiter's thick atmosphere, where it will break apart and melt.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby geckzilla » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:30 am

Got a hearty chuckle out of me.
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Boomer12k » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:34 am

Yeah, gimme a chocolate swirl Cappuccino....

Sounds like a great project... should learn much...

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Whiskybreath » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:04 am

Scary. But fantastic.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby uakrongrad » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:55 am

Are Ben Affleck and Aerosmith leading the mission too? That trailer seem less like a NASA mission video and more like a Hollywood cinematic...
Commenting specifically about the actual mission, These are exciting times!!!

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Cousin Ricky » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:06 pm

(deep voice) “J. O. I.”

How dramatic!

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby neufer » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:37 pm

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rad wrote:
Rad: An abbreviation of 'radical'--a term made popular by the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Still primarily used by people on the West Coast who find words like 'cool', 'awesome', and 'tight' to be tired and overused; 'rad' is generally considered to be a much higher praise than the aforementioned superlatives. Also used as a general expression of awe.
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Markus Schwarz » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:53 pm

And then scientists are surprised when people complain that scientists don’t know what they are doing. Sure, these movie-trailer like videos get attention, but is it the attention that the mission really needs? The scientists at CERN found out the hard way, when, after hyping the creation of black holes, people started lawsuits to stop their new accelerator.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Evermore » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:08 pm

Is the photo a simulation or actual?

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby sunson » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:41 pm

Lets call it "J.O.Y." , no? Jupiter does not know about orthography!

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Wadsworth » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:06 pm

I didn't like the radiation comparison. .39 Rad exposure at earth is a transient measurement compared to the 20 million Rad exposure they stated for the entire mission. It would be a much better comparison stating the expected average transient Rad measurement at the distance this craft will be orbiting Jupiter..
It looks like NASA is increasing its efforts at hyping missions in order to garner the 'layman' public interest.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Chris Peterson » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:16 pm

Wadsworth wrote:I didn't like the radiation comparison. .39 Rad exposure at earth is a transient measurement compared to the 20 million Rad exposure they stated for the entire mission. It would be a much better comparison stating the expected average transient Rad measurement at the distance this craft will be orbiting Jupiter.

It would also be nice if they used a proper SI unit for describing the radiation dose. NASA has gotten in trouble in the past because of a failure to use modern units.
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Steve Dutch » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:19 pm

I wonder how many questions about Jupiter's atmosphere we could have answered if we hadn't wasted the Galileo probe by failing to equip it with a camera.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Chris Peterson » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:23 pm

Steve Dutch wrote:I wonder how many questions about Jupiter's atmosphere we could have answered if we hadn't wasted the Galileo probe by failing to equip it with a camera.

Probably not much. It's doubtful a camera would have provided all that much scientifically useful data. (And there were excellent reasons for not having a camera.)
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Steve Dutch » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:27 pm

neufer: Are you serious about the "rad" definition? Because it was used long, long before Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and stands for "radiation absorbed dose." It equaled 100 ergs per gram, and the SI unit is the gray (joules per kilogram). One gray equals 100 rads, so 5 grays is the approximate average lethal dose (your mileage may vary).

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby JohnD » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:28 pm

Markus Schwarz wrote:A people complain that scientists don’t know what they are doing.


Or saying.
Quote, re Jupiter, "It's spinning around so fast, it's like a giant slingshot".
That'll be the exobiologist then, not a physicist, or an engineer or a flight planner.
Or else the guy from Central Casting, with the deep dramatic voice, who was allowed to write his own script.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Steve Dutch » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:29 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Steve Dutch wrote:I wonder how many questions about Jupiter's atmosphere we could have answered if we hadn't wasted the Galileo probe by failing to equip it with a camera.

Probably not much. It's doubtful a camera would have provided all that much scientifically useful data. (And there were excellent reasons for not having a camera.)


Sure, if you define seeing the cloud structure as unimportant.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Chris Peterson » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:33 pm

Steve Dutch wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
Steve Dutch wrote:I wonder how many questions about Jupiter's atmosphere we could have answered if we hadn't wasted the Galileo probe by failing to equip it with a camera.

Probably not much. It's doubtful a camera would have provided all that much scientifically useful data. (And there were excellent reasons for not having a camera.)


Sure, if you define seeing the cloud structure as unimportant.

It's doubtful a camera would show much of that from inside the cloud layers. As on Earth, the optical spectrum is not the preferred way to study clouds. But like I said, there were very good reasons not to have a camera. Its absence wasn't an accident.
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Boomer12k » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:45 pm

Very Dramatic....

"in space....anything can happen...."

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby neufer » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:47 pm

Steve Dutch wrote:
neufer: Are you serious about the "rad" definition?

I'm shocked that you dare to question my sincerity! :shock:

Steve Dutch wrote:
Because it was used long, long before Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and stands for "radiation absorbed dose." It equaled 100 ergs per gram, and the SI unit is the gray (joules per kilogram). One gray equals 100 rads, so 5 grays is the approximate average lethal dose (your mileage may vary).

Well...how do you suppose that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles mutated in the first place :?:

(It's Ninja Turtles all the way down in the sewers of New York City.)
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Sarba Guha » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:00 pm

This is as great a trailer as I have ever seen.

Should have ended............"Coming soon to a theater near Jupiter".

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby kingernie » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:54 am

DirecTv guide for NASA TV doesn't show coverage for the event on the 4th. Anybody know anything about that?
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby naleta » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:06 pm

So they aren't worried about contaminating Jupiter? Some microbes can survive great heat, you know.

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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby Chris Peterson » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:28 pm

naleta wrote:So they aren't worried about contaminating Jupiter? Some microbes can survive great heat, you know.

Nothing can survive entry heat. And beyond reasonable doubt, no microbe can survive for long in the conditions of Jupiter.
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Re: APOD: Juno Mission Trailer (2016 Jun 28)

Postby neufer » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:29 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
naleta wrote:
So they aren't worried about contaminating Jupiter? Some microbes can survive great heat, you know.

Nothing can survive entry heat. And beyond reasonable doubt, no microbe can survive for long in the conditions of Jupiter.
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