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APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:05 am
by APOD Robot
Image Jupiter Rotates

Explanation: Observe the graceful twirl of our Solar System's largest planet. Many interesting features of Jupiter's enigmatic atmosphere, including dark belts and light zones, can be followed in detail. A careful inspection will reveal that different cloud layers rotate at slightly different speeds. The famous Great Red Spot is not visible at first -- but soon rotates into view. Other smaller storm systems occasionally appear. As large as Jupiter is, it rotates in only 10 hours. Our small Earth, by comparison, takes 24 hours to complete a spin cycle. The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France. Since hydrogen and helium gas are colorless, and those elements compose most of Jupiter's expansive atmosphere, what trace elements create the observed colors of Jupiter's clouds remains a topic of research.

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Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:37 am
by Guest
No hexagon at pole or unknown region for now, never shooted.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:22 am
by orin stepanek
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Hostile but pretty planet! 8-) 10 hr spin cycle, amazing!
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Jupiter's colors!
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Angry Kitty! :evil:

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am
by guest2
"The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France." How did somebody on Earth get a view from above Jupiter's pole?

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:19 pm
by Iksarfighter
I was meaning in Jupiter imagery generally, did they spot an hexagon at poles ?
Maybe never passed by ?

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:42 pm
by neufer
guest2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am
"The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France." How did somebody on Earth get a view from above Jupiter's pole?
They either relocated to a higher balcony...
or simply remapped their digital data.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:10 pm
by neufer
Iksarfighter wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:19 pm
I was meaning in Jupiter imagery generally, did they spot an hexagon at poles ?
Maybe never passed by ?
There are polygonal cyclones within a few degrees latitude of Jupiter's poles
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap180308.html
...but they wouldn't be visible from Earth.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:12 pm
by geoffrey.landis
guest2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am "The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France."
Paris has a day night cycle (not to mention Jupiter rising and setting)... How did they get five days of images without being interrupted?

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:37 pm
by neufer
geoffrey.landis wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:12 pm
guest2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am
"The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France."
Paris has a day night cycle (not to mention Jupiter rising and setting)... How did they get five days of images without being interrupted?
Five hours of a single night is sufficient to observe all of Jupiter.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:08 pm
by Joe Stieber
neufer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:37 pm
geoffrey.landis wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:12 pm
guest2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am
"The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France."
Paris has a day night cycle (not to mention Jupiter rising and setting)... How did they get five days of images without being interrupted?
Five hours of a single night is sufficient to observe all of Jupiter.
Yes, you can see it all in 5 hours, nominally half a Jovian rotation (ignoring limb foreshortening and the terminator-darkened edge along the eastern limb now), but you would still need the full 10 hour rotation period (more exactly, 9 hr 55.5 min) to see all of the surface features make a complete pass across the face of Jupiter visible to earth. In any case, the base images for this APOD were likely captured during a few hours each night, not continuously over five days, then skillfully combined into this animation.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:50 pm
by ilikespace80085
i wonder what it smell like :owl:

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:12 pm
by UncleJeff
Try as I might, I can't detect any relative movement among the features in Jupiter's atmosphere. I guess Jupiter's weather moves much more slowly than its rotation. On the time scale of the video, the weather features look static.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:00 pm
by johnnydeep
Two comments: I'm surprised that a telescope in a large city like Paris is able to get such a clear view of Jupiter. And as for determining the trace elements that determine the differences in cloud colors, why wouldn't "simple" spectra provide the answers?

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:08 pm
by Fred the Cat
ilikespace80085 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:50 pm i wonder what it smell like :owl:
Thanks to Juno you might be able to wear it soon. :|

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:25 pm
by neufer
UncleJeff wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:12 pm
Try as I might, I can't detect any relative movement among the features in Jupiter's atmosphere. I guess Jupiter's weather moves much more slowly than its rotation. On the time scale of the video, the weather features look static.
I'm figuring that they took ~30 hours of rapid images over a ~100 hour period and threw out all the cloudy/turbulent images.

Reordering, averaging & smoothing left the slow moving features (zones, belts & vortices) more or less in place whereas rapidly moving features (up to ~150m/s [or 54,000km/100hrs] just got "shmeared" out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter#Specific_bands wrote: :arrow: This 14-frame animation spans 24 Jovian days, or about 10 Earth days. Zones, belts and vortices on Jupiter. The wide equatorial zone is visible in the center surrounded by two dark equatorial belts (SEB and NEB). The large grayish-blue irregular "hot spots" at the northern edge of the white Equatorial Zone change over the course of time as they march eastward across the planet. The Great Red Spot is at the southern margin of the SEB. Strings of small storms rotate around northern-hemisphere ovals. Small, very bright features, possible lightning storms, appear quickly and randomly in turbulent regions. The smallest features visible at the equator are about 600 kilometers across. The occasional black spots in the image are moons of Jupiter getting into the field of view.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:38 am
by Husker03
In today's APOD (10/26/21), is a movie of Jupiter rotating. Just off of center at the start of the video is a straight black line going from pole to pole. One of my 9yr old students noticed it. I at first thought it was produced by the lens, but then I noticed that the line rotated with the planet. Can you take a minute and watch it, and then maybe let me know what we're seeing?

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap211026.html

APOD: 2021 October 26 - Jupiter Rotates (nasa.gov)

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Barry H. Bloch
Orting School District
Orting, Washington

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:53 am
by XgeoX
Husker03 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:38 am In today's APOD (10/26/21), is a movie of Jupiter rotating. Just off of center at the start of the video is a straight black line going from pole to pole. One of my 9yr old students noticed it. I at first thought it was produced by the lens, but then I noticed that the line rotated with the planet. Can you take a minute and watch it, and then maybe let me know what we're seeing?

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap211026.html

APOD: 2021 October 26 - Jupiter Rotates (nasa.gov)

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Barry H. Bloch
Orting School District
Orting, Washington
Hi, I watched the video part you are referring to several times but I never saw the line. Try reloading I would guess that it is a streaming artifact unrelated to the video.
Cool to note, nine was about the age I really got in to astronomy, thank you Patrick Moore and “ Observer's Book of Astronomy”!
Happy observing!

Eric

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:56 am
by XgeoX
guest2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am "The featured high-resolution time-lapse video was captured over five nights earlier this month by a mid-sized telescope on an apartment balcony in Paris, France." How did somebody on Earth get a view from above Jupiter's pole?
He might have digitally draped the video of the clouds onto a sphere then rendered them how they would look from above.
During Apollo they did this manually by projecting full moon shots onto a big globe so they could see what the poles looked like.

Eric

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:18 pm
by johnnydeep
XgeoX wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:53 am
Husker03 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:38 am In today's APOD (10/26/21), is a movie of Jupiter rotating. Just off of center at the start of the video is a straight black line going from pole to pole. One of my 9yr old students noticed it. I at first thought it was produced by the lens, but then I noticed that the line rotated with the planet. Can you take a minute and watch it, and then maybe let me know what we're seeing?

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap211026.html

APOD: 2021 October 26 - Jupiter Rotates (nasa.gov)

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Barry H. Bloch
Orting School District
Orting, Washington
Hi, I watched the video part you are referring to several times but I never saw the line. Try reloading I would guess that it is a streaming artifact unrelated to the video.
Cool to note, nine was about the age I really got in to astronomy, thank you Patrick Moore and “ Observer's Book of Astronomy”!
Happy observing!

Eric
A line seems to be there. I think he's referring to this one, seen here at 10 seconds in:

Straight Line In Jupiter's Clouds?
Straight Line In Jupiter's Clouds?

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:16 pm
by jldauvergne
Hi, you are right, a line is visible on the planet. I've tryed to avoid it without success. I don't realy know why does le software add this when it create the animation but it corresponds to the logitude 0° of the global map that I've made before producing the video.
Image

It's not a black line left when I've croped. I've checked that.

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:33 pm
by johnnydeep
jldauvergne wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:16 pm Hi, you are right, a line is visible on the planet. I've tryed to avoid it without success. I don't realy know why does le software add this when it create the animation but it corresponds to the logitude 0° of the global map that I've made before producing the video.
Image

It's not a black line left when I've croped. I've checked that.
Ok, so it's just a "stitching artifact".

Re: APOD: Jupiter Rotates (2021 Oct 26)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:18 pm
by neufer
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:33 pm
jldauvergne wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:16 pm
Hi, you are right, a line is visible on the planet. I've tryed to avoid it without success. I don't realy know why does le software add this when it create the animation but it corresponds to the logitude 0° of the global map that I've made before producing the video.

It's not a black line left when I've croped. I've checked that.
Ok, so it's just a "stitching artifact".
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